Saturday, April 17, 2021

Apparently one of /r/btc users is having "anger management" issues. I seek the public opinion of how our subreddit should deal with such cases.

I am borrowing a comment of another person that shall not be named, who noticed some interesting pattern created by a certain account that is very active in /r/btc subreddit. I wanted your opinion on how to judge his behavior.


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I can't help but notice that there's a user here who's going around this subreddit insulting people on a regular basis. He's going around and calling people "dumb fucks" telling people to "fuck themselves" and telling people to "shut the fuck up" over and over in his comments.

Why is this behavior tolerated in this subreddit?

Here are just a few examples in the last week or so. FYI none of these are duplicate comments, he just has a primitive word set that he repeats in each argument.

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[Following quotes come from the last 4 months of said user activity on /r/btc]

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Nah. I was unfailingly polite here for years. It made no difference.

So, you know, go fuck yourself.

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Here are a few presegwit blocks in the 5200 tx range

Already backtracking, eh? You said any full block, and now you seem to be changing it to all. Bad faith.

Should be trivial to find a few real world 1.8x or 9000+ tx post segwit blocks in that range

Garbage logic. You're assuming (for no reason) that the mix of transactions would stay identical to those from about six years ago.

I've already proven that SegWit is capable of producing blocks with over twice the raw number of transactions that a "legacy" block can theoretically do, which you fucking lied about here. (Note the word can't.)

So, you know, go fuck yourself.

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A month old post and you react now?

Wtf?

and they communicate about their growth and activity from the start and it is openly discussed here.

Show me a recent post of theirs where they reveal what percentage of transactions on BCH are due to their service. Recent as in 2021.

Noise.cash activity is easy to capture, there is no point in hiding it?

Yet I had a drawn out argument with someone who thought it accounted for 20-55% of transactions just a couple days ago.

Go fuck yourself.

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Ok, point me toward went it event?

In English, please?

I meant so far it is like the reorg protection never existed in the chain.

There’s not even any way to know for sure. And it’s mathematically guaranteed to happen eventually if it remains.

You are loosing your nerves rather quickly. Sure indication you are loosing the debate.

Lol! Nah, it’s just fun to call an asshole an asshole, ya dumb fuck.

And if you judge a debate’s “winner” by that metric, you are even more of a dumb fuck than I thought.

Ps - It’s “losing”, not “loosing”.

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Edit:

Hey, look, a new thread about BCH's transaction volume (in dollar amounts) is on the front page. The vast majority of that metric is bullshit, since it's counting the noise.cash transactions' total output rather than just the tips. For example, if an address sends 1 cent to a user, and $100 back to itself, it counts this as a $100.01 transaction. This means the numbers are totally bogus. Any mention of that on the thread? What do you think?

Ya dumb fuck.

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You believe a upvote = truth, downvote = lie.

No, I believe that upvotes = “I agree with/like this” and downvotes = “I disagree with/dislike this”.

Also, you are not a martyr , I suggest stop behaving like one.

Hahaha! Have you noticed my username, dumbass? I’m having a wonderful time.

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In your view, which doesn't go with everyone else's in the world, surprise.

What, in your view, do upvotes and downvotes represent? (I get that you think they 'don't matter', but that's irrelevant.)

Exactly, of course you are, that is the only reason you are here.

Back to bad-faith we go.

You dumb fuck. Where did I say that was the only reason I was here? Talk about bad faith! All you've got is projection and misdirection.

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You’re the one who doesn’t get it. You whine about two websites that have blocked you, yet Bitcoin is supposed to be decentralized. Why not make your own website?

You whine that these privately controlled websites should allow all speech, presumably including scams and spam — otherwise, it’s not actual free speech. However, you also make noises about being in favor of the free market. How is it a free market if private website owners are forced to allow things on their website?

I agree that the concept of free speech is valuable, but not this goofy “force-private-forums-to-allow-me-to-say-whatever-I-want” version. The valuable “free speech” is where nobody can arrest you or take your money for saying something they disagree with. Is that happening here? No. So shut the fuck up.

The flip side of the coin is that nobody is forced to listen to stuff they don’t care about. If people want unfiltered and uncensored discussion, they can go on 4chan. If they prefer stricter moderation, they can go elsewhere. Look at that: the free market and freedom of speech in action.

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Ok, show me the Segwit2X blocks. Or shut the fuck up.

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Just to make it clear to any readers that you're utterly full of shit, here's the operating US legal standard on the matter (Ver was indicted in US Federal Court):

That a guilty plea is a grave and solemn act to be accepted only with care and discernment has long been recognized. Central to the plea and the foundation for entering judgment against the defendant is the defendant's admission in open court that he committed the acts charged in the indictment. He thus stands as a witness against himself and he is shielded by the Fifth Amendment from being compelled to do so—hence the minimum requirement that his plea be the voluntary expression of his own choice. But the plea is more than an admission of past conduct; it is the defendant's consent that judgment of conviction may be entered without a trial—a waiver of his right to trial before a jury or a judge. Waivers of constitutional rights not only must be voluntary but must be knowing, intelligent acts done with sufficient awareness of the relevant circumstances and likely consequences.

Pay particular attention to the bolded parts, asshole. For even more support, let's look at the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure -- specifically Rule 11(b)(3) and its Notes:

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censorship role is actually to purposely spreading and protect lies

Another lie.

Therefore censorship is only necessary to protect lies.

More lies. What lies are they protecting in /r/Covid19? You’re saying that they are responsible for anti-vax idiocy??? This is some negotiating with terrorist bullshit. “Uncensored forums” are where the Capitol siege was planned.

You’re just an asshole. And that’s the truth. I’m done with this conversation. You’re a lying extremist.


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What do you think guys? Is such user/account a productive member of this community?

Should such behavior be tolerated?

What do you think is the proper punishment for this kind of behavior (if any)?


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