Thursday, November 21, 2019

How I think we could solve the secure container conflict

Lately there was a lot of talking about how we should/shouldn't be able to put things in our secure containers during raids. Although I think that not being able to put valuable things in your gamma during a raid is an interesting solution I do also see the problem that the majority of casual players or people who can't put as much time in the game as others have with this. So here is what i taught my work out for everyone :

First of all we should not be able to put any items in our containers (except point #2) as I believe that this is a fair solution for everyone so that we won't have to relay on a lucky spawn location or time to be able to reach loot spots. I consider that this won't just make hatchet running harder (as the main problem with this is not the fact that the hatchlings reach the loot first but the fact that by the time a PMC/SCAV kills them they already manage to put something in their containers) but it will also influence the flea market by a lot. Less items will be available on the market as most players/scavs in a raid end up dying and the ones that survive can only carry so much loot, this means that most of the things will sell for a bit more therefore making money won't be more of a problem than it is now. Right now making money is quite easy especially with the introduction of the hideout that requires items to upgrade making most of the useless items actually profitable, and also offers sources of passive income (SCAV box, bitcoin farm, moonshine). Literally everything you find in a raid can be sold for a decent price and each PMC/SCAV run can easily bring you more than 100k just for finding junk items.

Second of all, what we should be able to do is put items in the container that are related/required for a current quest that you are undergoing, this will help more casual people progress with their quests and at the same time stop players from hiding expensive stuff in their containers making kills more rewarding. I believe there should be no other reason for you to be allowed to put stuff in your container unless it will help you progress with the quests everything else should be on your body making this a high risk/high reward situation in which although you might lose your loot you could also get better stuff from that one guy who got to a loot spawn faster and you managed to kill. Also all keys/keycards should be allowed in the container even if u find them in the raid as some of them are already rare enough.

Now for some problems that might occur:

-Will this make the game a bit slower paced? Maybe, but only for some of the players that manage to find something actually rare.

-Will players try to rush to the extracts after they find something good? Again maybe but taking in consideration that the extract is usually on the other side of the map from where you spawn and that other players spawned near that location making a bee-line for the extract will get you killed more often than not.

-Will this encourage extract camping ? Well it might do that, or it might instigate players to look for PVP as other people might actually be carrying some useful/expensive stuff making fights a lot more rewarding as time goes on. Also the reason why i believe that this will not make extract camping a problem is the fact that right now extract camping is viable only due to the fact that people don't expect it and feel safe once they approach the extraction point. But if people actually start doing this it will lower it's effectiveness since people will expect it and properly clear extractions. Therefore the success of extract camping is directly related with how often it is practiced since if this becomes popular players will take countermeasures.

-Will it be harder to make money ? Harder than now, yes but definitely not impossible since most of the items found in raid have a purpose and a more than just decent price now.

Lastly I would like to propose that if this proves to be an interesting idea it should be tested for one full wipe not a 2 days event just before a new patch. This or any other measure taken against secure containers needs proper testing and only after collecting some feedback should a decision be taken.

PS: Can we also do something about scav players spawning 5 minutes after the raid began right next to some of the looting spots? Make it so that they only spawn after around 10-15 minutes as most of the pmc have to take care when pushing/moving across the map while a scav player just tries to grab as much as possible as fast as possible and run away. Also sorry for any typos/expression mistakes It's really late for me and my English is far from perfect.

TL&DR : Make it so that only items required for a quest that you are currently undergoing can go into the secure container during a raid, while other expensive items must be placed in your backpack/rig/pockets.


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