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/r/Monero Weekly Discussion – June 20, 2020 - Use this thread for general chatter, basic questions, and if you're new to Monero

Index

General questions
Wallet: CLI & GUI
Wallet: Ledger
Nodes

1. General questions

Where can I download the Monero wallet?

There are multiple Monero wallets for a wide range of devices at your disposal. Check the table below for details and download links. Attention: for extra security make sure to calculate and compare the checksum of your downloaded files when possible.

Please note the following usage of the labels:

⚠️ - Relatively new and/or beta. Use wallet with caution.

☢️ - Closed source.

Desktop wallets

Wallet	Device	Description	Download link
"Official" GUI / CLI	Windows, macOS, Linux	Default implementation maintained by the core team. Use this wallet to run a full node and obtain maximum privacy. Integrates with hardware wallets. Current version: 0.15.0.1 / 0.15.0.4.	GetMonero.org
MyMonero	Windows, macOS, Linux	Lightweight wallet -- you don't need to download the blockchain and run a node. MyMonero was developed with the assistance of the core team. It also has web-based and iOS versions.	MyMonero.com
Exodus	Windows, macOS, Linux	⚠️ / Multi-asset wallet.	Exodus.io
ZelCore	Windows, macOS, Linux	⚠️ / Multi-asset wallet. It also has Android and iOS versions.	Zeltrez.io
Guarda	Windows, macOS, Linux	⚠️ ☢️ / Multi-asset wallet.	Guarda.co

Mobile wallets

Wallet	Device	Description	Download link
Monerujo	Android	Integrates with Ledger (hardware wallet). Website: https://www.monerujo.io/.	Google Play / F-Droid / GitHub
MyMonero	iOS	Website: https://mymonero.com/	App Store
Cake Wallet	iOS	Website: https://cakewallet.io/	App Store
X Wallet	iOS	Website: https://xwallet.tech/	App Store
Edge Wallet	Android / iOS	Multi-asset wallet. Website: https://edge.app/	Google Play / App Store
ZelCore	Android / iOS	⚠️ / Multi-asset wallet. Website: https://zelcore.io/	Google Play / App Store
Coinomi	Android / iOS	⚠️ ☢️ / Multi-asset wallet. Website: https://www.coinomi.com/	Google Play / App Store
Moxi / Guarda	Android / iOS	⚠️ ☢️ / Multi-asset wallet. Website: https://guarda.co/	Google Play / App Store
Exa Wallet	Android / iOS	⚠️ Website: https://exan.tech/	Google Play / App Store
Wookey Wallet	Android / iOS	⚠️ Website: https://wallet.wookey.io/	Google Play / F-Droid / App Store
Exodus	Android / iOS	⚠️ / Multi-asset wallet. Website: https://www.exodus.io/monero/)	Google Play / [App Store](https://apps.apple.com/app/exodus-crypto-wallet/id1414384820

Web-based wallets

Wallet	Description	Link
MyMonero	Web version of the MyMonero wallet.	Web
XMRWallet	Web wallet with TOR support.	Web / Onion URL
Guarda	Multi-asset wallet.	Web

How long does it take for my balance to unlock?

Your balance is unlocked after 10 confirmations (which means 10 mined blocks). A block is mined approximately every two minutes on the Monero network, so that would be around 20 minutes.

How can I prove that I sent a payment?

The fastest and most direct way is by using the ExploreMonero blockchain explorer. You will need to recover the transaction key from your wallet (complete guide for GUI / CLI).

How do I buy Monero (XMR) with Bitcoin (BTC)?

There are dozens of exchanges that trade Monero against Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Check out the list on CoinMarketCap and choose the option that suits you best.

How do I buy Monero (XMR) with fiat?

Kraken (USD and EUR): old-school, decent exchange. They might require your documents for verification and approval of your account.
LocalMonero: peer-to-peer exchange. They have pretty much everything as a payment method and they support hundreds of fiat options.

How can I quickly exchange my Monero (XMR) for Bitcoin (BTC)?

There are multiple ways to exchange your Monero for Bitcoin, but first of all, I'd like to remind you that if you really want to do your part for Monero, one of the simplest ways is to get in touch with your merchant/service provider and request for it to accept Monero directly as payment. Ask the service provider to visit the official website and our communication channels if he or she needs help with system integration.

That being said, the community has been recommending two services in particular, XMR.TO and MorphToken. These services are only recommendations and are operated by entities outside the control of the Monero Project. Be diligent.

How do I mine Monero? And other mining questions.

The correct place to ask questions and discuss the Monero mining scene is in the dedicated subreddit r/MoneroMining. That being said, you can find a list of pools and available mining software in the GetMonero.org website.

2. Wallet: CLI & GUI

Why I can't see my balance? Where is my XMR?

Before any action there are two things to check:

Are you using the latest available version of the wallet? A new version is released roughly every 6 months, so make sure you're using the current release (compare the release on GetMonero.org with your wallet's version on Settings, under Debug info).
Is your wallet fully synchronized? If it isn't, wait the sync to complete.

Because Monero is different from Bitcoin, wallet synchronization is not instant. The software needs to synchronize the blockchain and use your private keys to identify your transactions. Check in the lower left corner (GUI) if the wallet is synchronized.

You can't send transactions and your balance might be wrong or unavailable if the wallet is not synced with the network. So please wait.

If this is not a sufficient answer for your case and you're looking for more information, please see this answer on StackExchange.

How do I upgrade my wallet to the newest version?

This question is beautifully answered on StackExchange.

Why does it take so long to sync the wallet [for the first time]?

You have decided to use Monero's wallet and run a local node. Congratulations! You have chosen the safest and most secure option for your privacy, but unfortunately this has an initial cost. The first reason for the slowness is that you will need to download the entire blockchain, which is considerably heavy (+70 GB) and constantly growing. There are technologies being implemented in Monero to slow this growth, however it is inevitable to make this initial download to run a full node. Consider syncing to a device that has an SSD instead of an HDD, as this greatly impacts the speed of synchronization.

Now that the blockchain is on your computer, the next time you run the wallet you only need to download new blocks, which should take seconds or minutes (depending on how often you use the wallet).

I don't want to download the blockchain, how can I skip that?

The way to skip downloading the blockchain is connecting your wallet to a public remote node. You can follow this guide on how to set it up. You can find a list of public remote nodes on MoneroWorld.

Be advised that when using a public remote node you lose some of your privacy. A public remote node is able to identify your IP and opens up a range for certain attacks that further diminish your privacy. A remote node can't see your balance and it can't spend your XMR.

How do I restore my wallet from the mnemonic seed or from the keys?

To restore your wallet with the 25 word mnemonic seed, please see this guide.

To restore your wallet with your keys, please see this guide.

3. Wallet: Ledger

How do I generate a Ledger Monero Wallet with the GUI or CLI?

This question is beautifully answered on StackExchange. Check this page for the GUI instructions, and this page for the CLI instructions.

4. Nodes

How can my local node become a public remote node?

If you want to support other Monero users by making your node public, you can follow the instructions on MoneroWorld, under the section "How To Include Your Node On Moneroworld".

How can I connect my node via Tor?

This question is beautifully answered on StackExchange.

Will XMR be like Tesla stock? Widely discounted and under-valued... until it's not?

It wasn't that long ago that Tesla stock was trading at sub-$200 (May 2019), and many people were speculating on Tesla's demise.

If you did a fair evaluation of where Tesla were at the time, and where they said they were going... not much has changed inbetween. Still using the same technology, same factories, and still have the same product pipeline.

If you'd really been paying attention, their 2020 Q1 earnings were no surprise. It was only really the herd's sentiment that changed.

Tesla is now trading close to $1,000/share level, 5x more.

I wonder if there are any parallels with Tesla stock price and the Monero market cap.

Right now it's trading slightly above the levels of 2017 (pre-Bitcoin pump). However, in practice, the technology and UX has improved significantly. Off the top of my head improvements since 2017 include:

Mobile wallets for Android and iOS (Monerujo/CakeWallet/MyMonero weren't available back then)
Hardware wallet support from both Ledger and Trezor
RandomX - which maintains, so far, ASIC resistance
Bulletproofs, which brought down the size (and thus cost) of transactions
Larger ring sizes (greater anonymity set)
Monero only online markets
Adjacent to all that technology change, the community has also grown. With MoneroKon and sizeable attendance at Defqon and I think others.

Currently the market cap of Monero is less than 1/100 of Bitcoin. However, it's not clear that Monero has less than 1/100 the utility. Therefore the price is more a reflection of demand than it is utility. And demand could potentially change at any minute.

Which leads to the next question... what would need to change, between now and then, to stimulate this?

Possible thoughts from my end:

Adoption by a large crypto exchange with easy fiat on-ramp (unlikely)
More services and marketplaces adopting Monero (likely)
More UX improvements (needed, but not inevitable)
More evangelism and education - ideally via common social media channels (possible, not inevitable)
Some sort of global/political/economic event that triggers capital flight into more private forms of value store (possible, but not inevitable)
Slow spread of awareness and usage globally. Fuelled by documentation translation and individuals who try to spread the knowledge (already happening)

Thoughts / comments / criticism on the above?

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