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[Daily Discussion] Wednesday, April 08, 2020

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What is r/nulltheworldproblems?

This is the only place I thought I could get some good answers. The sub or it's owner doesn't say anything about it other than it's just a test sub. I just wonder if that's really what it is?

From what I gather, it's ran by a guy in Germany who specializes in various computer sciences and I believe he is very well read. His website shows he a very capable programmer with interests in privacy, cryptology, and circumvention of sophisticated network attacks. The sub is supposedly a test sub ran by bots that seemingly post random material.

On the subreddit, there are various bots that post a myriad of things. Some apparently random, some appear to have bits of onion links, bitcoin wallet addresses and at times pieces of code in various languages such as Python, C and even Prolog (maybe?)

All posts by the bots are followed by another that replies with several words as an alliteration as well as what appears to be Morse code and binary sequences that don't offer much but similar alliteration and technical computer terms.

One post in particular I happened to dig into was posting pieces of an NSA Maintenance Guide to their early classified computer systems named ABNER II. One also appeared to have pieces of a Russian guide into TCP hijacking.

It frequently posts in Russian as well as English.

I know Reddit is host to it's fair share of strange subreddits and many are just jokes to keep people digging for nothing.. But this appears to be more than that. Does anyone have any insight to offer?



What is r/nulltheworldproblems?

The sub or it's owner doesn't say anything about it other than it's just a test sub. I just wonder if that's really what it is?

From what I gather, it's ran by a guy in Germany who specializes in various computer sciences and I believe he is very well read. His website shows he a very capable programmer with interests in privacy, cryptology, and circumvention of sophisticated network attacks. The sub is supposedly a test sub ran by bots that seemingly post random material.

On the subreddit, there are various bots that post a myriad of things. Some apparently random, some appear to have bits of onion links, bitcoin wallet addresses and at times pieces of code in various languages such as Python, C and even Prolog (maybe?)

All posts by the bots are followed by another that replies with several words as an alliteration as well as what appears to be Morse code and binary sequences that don't offer much but similar alliteration and technical computer terms.

One post in particular I happened to dig into was posting pieces of an NSA Maintenance Guide to their early classified computer systems named ABNER II. One also appeared to have pieces of a Russian guide into TCP hijacking.

It frequently posts in Russian as well as English.

I know Reddit is host to it's fair share of strange subreddits and many are just jokes to keep people digging for nothing.. But this appears to be more than that. Does anyone have any insight to offer?



What is r/nulltheworldproblems?

The sub or it's owner doesn't say anything about it other than it's just a test sub. I just wonder if that's really what it is?

From what I gather, it's ran by a guy in Germany who specializes in various computer sciences and I believe he is very well read. His website shows he a very capable programmer with interests in privacy, cryptology, and circumvention of sophisticated network attacks. The sub is supposedly a test sub ran by bots that seemingly post random material.

On the subreddit, there are various bots that post a myriad of things. Some apparently random, some appear to have bits of onion links, bitcoin wallet addresses and at times pieces of code in various languages such as Python, C and even Prolog (maybe?)

All posts by the bots are followed by another that replies with several words as an alliteration as well as what appears to be Morse code and binary sequences that don't offer much but similar alliteration and technical computer terms.

One post in particular I happened to dig into was posting pieces of an NSA Maintenance Guide to their early classified computer systems named ABNER II. One also appeared to have pieces of a Russian guide into TCP hijacking.

It frequently posts in Russian as well as English.

I know Reddit is host to it's fair share of strange subreddits and many are just jokes to keep people digging for nothing.. But this appears to be more than that. Does anyone have any insight to offer?

I posted this in other places in hope for some answers , but for the sake of this sub, this feels almost like something for intel purposes.



Famous British Rapper Explains Why Bitcoin Haters Will Buy BTC at $20000 (current BTC/USD price is $7,337.08)

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AVA Emission Rate Vs. Bitcoin

One of the properties that brought me to AVA initially was the idea of a variable emission rate. Most Crypto-Currencies have a pre-planned emission rate that is set in stone for 100+ plus years with zero flexibility.

Initially, this may sound like a great idea as the monetary policy is transparent, and users can plan around the system, knowing that it will not change. After some thought, I am now convinced that this is a bad policy.

Bitcoin, for example, has the block reward halving roughly four years. Initially starting at 50 coins per block, then 25, 12.5, and in the near future, the rewards will be reduced to 6.25 coins per block. This number chosen seemingly at random, ten years ago, with zero fail-safes, is meant to keep the system alive beyond any of our lifetimes. Doubtful.

Satoshi could have never foreseen events to come, and how his magic numbers would hold up in the long term. We are seeing the effects of this currently with the Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash halving.

Bitcoin Cash is currently going its halving nearly 31 days before Bitcoin. This will cause miners from the Bitcoin Cash chain to migrate to the Bitcoin chain in order to retain the pre-halving profits, putting the Bitcoin Cash chain at extremely high risk of being attacked.

If BCH had a variable block reward similar to AVA, this wouldn't be an issue as it could be adjusted to combat unforeseen events instead of grasping to magic numbers.

The most flexible networks will outlive and adapt. The systems "written in stone" are a single unseen event away from total failure.


A simple guide to the Bitcoin halving event (video) (x-post from /r/Bitcoin)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/fwql6c/a_simple_guide_to_the_bitcoin_halving_event_video/

A simple guide to the Bitcoin halving event (video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPIQdoIEGVc&feature=share

A simple guide to the Bitcoin halving event (video) (x-post from /r/Bitcoin)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/fwql6c/a_simple_guide_to_the_bitcoin_halving_event_video/

A simple guide to the Bitcoin halving event (video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPIQdoIEGVc&feature=share

Halving Livestream - Opportunities Beyond the Halving

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Information and links at https://www.thefutureofbitcoin.cash/halving-livestream


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Let's brainstorm some project ideas for the developer competition!

I'm not a developer, but I'm still excited by the recently announced $75,000 hackathon, so let's try to think of some project ideas for the developers among us :)

Faucets:

  • Ad-supported faucets

  • Location-based faucets

  • Mining-based faucets

Gaming:

  • Betting (on real world events?)

  • Blackjack

  • Browser-based loot/grinder games (e.g. ARPGs)

  • Poker

Media:

  • Nano Black Friday site (like Bitcoin Black Friday)

  • Nano-related news site

  • Nano-powered blog platform

  • Social-media tipping

Other:

  • ATMs

  • Kegerators

  • Messaging service

  • Nano-based advertising services

  • Nano-powered sales/store platform

  • Peer-to-peer exchanges/stores

  • Search engine with Nano integration

  • Vending machines

Privacy:

  • Mixers

Tools:

  • API as a service

  • Block explorers

  • Representative alerting services

  • Pre-packaged Nano nodes ("node as a service", like game server services)

Wallets:

  • Light wallets

  • Privacy centric wallets?


Telegram AMA - Summary

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Zhuling Chen

It’s always great to hang out in this group. This group means a lot to the Aelf community. It is the first Aelf community and has been there through all the ups and downs in the world. I would like to start with wishing everyone is staying safe at home during the virus outbreak. It definitely has been a difficult time for all of us, but together we can pull through it.

We understand that the situation is quite striking to all of us. But I really believe that the solution to the virus outbreak is about more global coordination and collaboration.

All of you to be assured, our team in different places are all safe and working from home as normal.

The Aelf team in Beijing were among the early ones experiencing the virus outbreak. As everyone was on the way home for Lunar New Year holiday and then experienced a total city lock-down followed by a 40 days’ work from home policy. It was definitely not easy for them, but our team stayed strong, took necessary precautions and focused on work with the right morale. Mappo has recently published some tips on how to work from home effectively based on our experience. Do check it out. Despite not working in the office since February, we have achieved great progress, including launching Aelf 1.0 preview, which is an important milestone in technical delivery and also the roadmap to mainnet launch (which listed out the essential steps for the community to work together to launch a successful public network)

Let's first talk about Aelf v1.0 preview. It is the cornerstone of the mainnet launch. The product itself has all the features that the public network is needed. The codebase has been reviewed and tested rigorously by the team. And a few highlights of how the network would look like:

  1. The code allows a stable and high throughput blockchain network to operate publicly.

  2. For developers, they will love how flexible the system is to be customized, the number of tools and documentation to help them start developing applications on the network

  3. For the whole community, the system is an ever-evolving one where the voting system is ready in place to conduct network-wide voting on various topics, such as transaction fee adjustment, network protocol upgrade, incentive adjustment, etc

  4. Aelf system is able to run multi-chain architecture where each side chain will host different applications and still ready to work with each other

So you may ask since the software is ready, why have we not yet launched the public network? The answer, in short, is that a public blockchain is launched not by a team but through a community effort and that's why we are coordinating the community effort based on the roadmap we proposed. Aelf team has launched the public testnet based on Aelf v1.0 preview and currently, all nodes are under the team. The goal is to let the community and elected nodes to take it over and launch it on a global scale. Not only launch it but also be familiar with the network and also set the launch parameters in a decentralized way. If we take a car as an example, we have made the car, but ultimately the drivers are you guys and therefore before it really hits on the road, we need to guide the community to do a test drive, adjust the car based on what really works for YOU, and ultimately let YOU drive the car freely and safely

So how are we going to help the community launch the network:

First of all, we have launched the codes, documents about the economic system and governance model and technical features. With all the things available, you are able to understand what the system is about, as a token holder what's your benefit in the system, and being a node in the system plays a big role in the governance

Next, without yet electing the nodes, we will get all token holders to join the current Aelf network through a mapping event. That means as long as you have Aelf tokens, you will be able to get 1:1 test tokens on the public testnet. that gives you full access to all the features, and you will feel like you are already using the mainnet. You will get rewarded in making transactions, voting, etc.

Do try out the Aelf wallet and voting features, you will see how easy to transfer tokens cross-chain. and also how flexible the system allows people to make changes. For example, the community may want to adjust the block rewarding parameters or fees to use certain services on mainnet, they can initiate a discussion and then vote in the system and once voted through, it will be reflected on mainnet.

For people or organizations that want to play a bigger role in the system, we will do a dry run of node election. Take it as the real node election before mainnet launch. We will see who the active members of the community are and being trusted by the community. Among the nodes, we will form a network launch committee. The committee will be the crucial party to oversees and ensures the smooth launch of Aelf mainnet, instead of just relying on the Aelf team. This is our step towards decentralization.

The committee will agree on the actual launch process, final checking all the parameters in the system to be ready for launch and then decide when the criteria are met to launch the network. Once all that is decided. We will invite all interested nodes to apply for the election and let the community know what's their plan to grow the Aelf network. the network will initially be launched with a few nodes from the committee and gradually be replaced by the selected nodes (a bootstrap phase). Along the way, we will work with exchanges to conduct token swap (which we are also designing an innovative system to further enhance security and usability of Aelf tokens in exchanges)

Among this isolated and worrisome time, at least we all have something to look forward to: a successful launch of Aelf network! Once it is launched, we are excited to see a vibrant and technically superior network that is good for Dapps to run on top of it.

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Doris Guo
Q1: As a Blockchain start-up, what difficulties have you overcome when starting Aelf project? What motivates you to solve difficulties and achieve success today?

Zhuling Chen
First, just like launching any start-up, its community and investors are usually regional. There is always some bias on if Asian projects are solid. It is really rare to have an Asian project to be supported by western funds and community from day 1. We were lucky to have overcome that obstacle. Having a global investor line-up from day 1. Having a global team from day 1 and also working with a global community from day 1. This benefited us to have an international perspective which is crucial in the blockchain industry.

Secondly, as a hardcore technology company, it is really hard to put in plain words what is our ambition. Our ambition is huge, achieving key innovations in multiple fronts of blockchain technology and organically combined them to serve real users for the future. Our marketing team has been working really hard to elaborate on what Aelf is. Now we have come to a point that the product is ready. Therefore, it is much easier for all of us to understand how solid Aelf is by trying out the network ourselves! That's exactly what the following events will be about - Try out all the exciting features of Aelf network before mainnet launch.

Doris Guo
Q2: What critical problems do you see occurring in the blockchain industry nowadays? How does Aelf solve these problems?

Haobo Ma
First, we need to distinguish the difference between BTC and ETH. One is Digital Cash and the other is the Smart Contract Platform. Aelf addresses most of the latter's problems. In short, it can be summarized as performance, end-user friendly, developer-friendly, network economy, and self-governance and upgrading. Each of these areas will probably take up a lot of space, and as a whole are the issues described in our two white papers. In short, Aelf is faster, end-users do not need to know the rules of the blockchain, developers can set up the development environment in 10 minutes, have a good economic model and can carry out proposal governance on the chain.

Doris Guo
Q3: What is your long-term vision about the industry which Aelf is working at? Are you afraid someday there will be another project with more innovative technology can replace Aelf?

Haobo Ma
Let's talk about where Aelf stands in the traditional Internet. It is essentially a cloud service provider, Aelf provides resources and infrastructure for developers to deploy their services, known as smart contracts. We eventually want Aelf to grow like AAA (Amazon, Azure, AliCloud). Because Aelf is a network that can be dynamically scaled, we can accept any new technology, some of the more advanced technologies we can put on a side chain.

Doris Guo
Q4: Why did Aelf choose for cross-chain interaction?

Haobo Ma
As I mentioned earlier, Aelf solves the Smart Contract Platform problem. However, there are other digital cash problems as well which we would need to use existing infrastructure such as Bitcoin's chain in order to interact with Bitcoin. There are a lot of infrastructures on Ethereum that we want to interact with. Multi-chain on Aelf network mainly is to isolate resources to improve network performance and network stability.

Doris Guo
Q5: What difficulties do the Aelf team have now (I talk about COVID-19)? How does the Aelf team solve it? Have you changed the roadmap?

Haobo Ma
There is no great impact. The teams in Singapore and Beijing are communicating with each other remotely on a regular basis. The only change is that most of us are now working from home which has no impact and in fact, it seems conducive to the acceptance of more community developers in the future to come. From the internal working schedule and development timeline, there is no great impact. We do not publish specific timeline as we do not want short term holders (traders) to create too much negative pressure on product development.

Doris Guo
Q6: Aelf is an open-source blockchain, and there's the common problem of taking a substantial amount of time for the different participants to agree on strategic decisions. What types of governance models do you use in Aelf to address this issue???

Haobo Ma
The issue is about public blockchain network, and who can decide the direction of the network. Our answer is long-term holders. For the short-term holders (traders), we refuse to allow them to participate in any discussion of the direction of Aelf because the short-term holders are likely to make a profit and sell quickly, which is essentially the same example of a person who cheats the President and then runs away for his personal gain. We defined a number of proposal processes, including the logic of the two-party system in the United States, and the participation in the referendum to ensure that the final proposal represents the majority. At the same time, we are looking for some legal solutions to avoid bifurcation, such as prohibiting exchanges from intervening in bifurcated new tokens. While we cannot limit a community, we should be able to find ways to limit a centralized organization. This restriction is akin to a ban on national secession.

Doris Guo
Q7: How will Aelf empower Investors, Companies, Developers, Platform Users to deliver impactful solutions and bring value to people all over the world?

Haobo Ma
We will learn from the operational experience of successful foundations such as the LINUX foundation and license some commercial companies to use Aelf solutions to solve business problems. At the same time, Aelf is an open-source product under the MIT License, and we accept any use that does not violate this open-source principle.

Zhuling Chen
Let me add on to Haobo’s statement: to incentivize and empower the community, we are also exploring ways to let the community decide how to use the funds for Aelf (allocate to where it matters to our community) once mainnet is launched. This means you guys can decide what are the projects to be funded on Aelf, etc

Doris Guo
Q8:When will the node campaign start? How will Aelf attract users to participate in nodes election?

Haobo Ma
According to our published roadmap, the timeline can be dynamic, but I don't think it will be too long. The main idea is to let everyone understand what we envision Aelf to be like, and what are the rights and benefits of being a node in the future. We hope to find nodes that fully recognize the efforts of Aelf at the present stage and are willing to participate in the future development of Aelf. We will run a simulation of the node campaign on the testnet and set up a temporary mainnet launch committee. Please follow our official Twitter for more upcoming details!

Doris Guo
Q9: Token swap form 2 is some kind of cross-chain transfer? It will be handled by a smart contract?

Haobo Ma
It is handled by the smart contract, we define an asset cross-chain transfer protocol, but it may be opened after a snapshot.

Doris Guo
Q10: Which Exchanges will support token swap? Do you have any plan to list Aelf in some big exchange like Binance, Houbi, Kucoin, .......?

Haobo Ma
We are already in talks with some exchanges, there is still competition between exchanges, and many are still hoping to attract more users by getting access to mainnet token swap early.

Doris Guo
Q11: Aside conversion of the current tokens to mainnet tokens, what other main features will be accomplished with the mainnet launch?

Haobo Ma
We have a documentation file that has been published, which has listed some features: https://Aelf.io/gridcn/Aelf_public_testnet_and_supporting_features_introduction_en_v1.0.pdf

Doris Guo
Q12: Do you have any plan to burn or buyback your coin?

Haobo Ma
We have plans for the community to govern through DAO, we have no interest in short-term price incentive adjustment as we would prefer to drive the project to higher adoption. After mainnet starts operation, there will be a part of network revenue get destroyed automatically.

Doris Guo
Q13: Often, as a newbie developer, I face difficulties on most blockchains. How easy and convenient is it for me on Aelf, and what programming language and tools are needed??

Haobo Ma
We set up staging for DAPP developers on GitHub and configured CI. Develop a smart contract using C# with React Native on the front end. So, in fact, developers can fork the source code without setting up the environment locally, and you can conduct unit testing with the help of CI. You can also release the smart contract and generate the installation package of iOS and android online. https://github.com/AElfProject/Aelf-boilerplate

Doris Guo
Q14: What is the progress of business development and what are some of your commercial partnerships? How will Aelf rapidly develop the number & performance of DAPP?

Haobo Ma
First of all, the blockchain industry is still fairly small and users with ETH and EOS wallets are considered a very small group and its not effective to even promote within these groups. What we need to consider is how to enable users who have never been exposed to blockchain to use DAPP. The competitiveness of Aelf is to make it easier for Aelf developers to promote their DAPP to ordinary users, rather than to teach ordinary users a lot on blockchain knowledge. The average user doesn't like to hear about private keys, mnemonic, Gas Price, RAM, CPU, etc. Only until we solve such problems, companies that need to solve problems through blockchain will be more inclined to use Aelf in technology selection. Therefore, our main work is to explain the competitive advantages of Aelf, ETH and EOS to everyone. We have some business cooperation’s, but we also believe that simply through case-by-case business cooperation will not be able to gain adoption so quickly, therefore we still need to put our products to stay ahead of the next generation.

Doris Guo
Q15: What other activities can encourage more people to be confident about Aelf?

Haobo Ma
We are only going to state the truth by having those that have faith in us to stay and those that don't to leave. The development of Aelf is not driven by a single foundation, but by a steady stream of contributions from the community. In the future, we will also place the activities in the DAO for on-chain governance, and let the community make decisions by itself.

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Kun Aguero
As you know that in the present market situation many new coins or either dying or thriving for liquidity? How will you manage this liquidity problem?

Zhuling Chen
Aelf started in 2017. we have gone through a few cycles in the market, still, remember the big down period in 2018-2019. Aelf is financially solid and the team has always been working hard. if you are referring to liquidity in exchanges, we are among the lucky ones that are listed in all major exchanges

Xinshu Dong
Hello, great discussions! I would like to ask what are the criteria to join the committee for launching the mainnet? Would love to participate

Zhuling Chen
Hi xinshu, great to see you here. The committee will be chosen among the nodes elected during the testnet dry run. Which means, it is really important to participate in the testnet dry run and also start to establish your reputation in the community so that people will elect you as a node. The detailed criteria will include what is your plan to help Aelf to grow, tech competency and reputation.

An Da
What are Aelf’s achievements in 2019? Who had supported you to get those things?

Zhuling Chen
To name a few, in 2019, Aelf is one of the most active projects on GitHub. This means Aelf is evolving and improving fast in this space and our team has the tech strength. In addition, we have also successfully listed on all major cloud service providers, such as AWS, Azure, Google. So large companies can easily launch Aelf side chains in their organization with minimum hassle.

John
How does the voting for master nodes candidates occur? And why is the development of this system important for your project?

Zhuling Chen
Voting is going to be pretty simple. All token holders can vote for the nodes they support on our block explorer.

Miha
After mainnet lunch, how will you assure that transactional fees will stay low? We know what sometimes happens to fees on ETH blockchain.

Zhuling Chen
First of all, due to the fact that is Aelf is scalability, this will reduce transaction fee. Secondly, all transaction fees will be voted by the nodes (which will be elected by you). So they will represent your interest

Bobbyfernandito
Currently, as we see All projects are concerned with the speed and security. So, tell us here - what are the facilities Aelf provide to their user and investors?

Haobo Ma
Security: we have an automated smart contract code audit. During contract deployment, production nodes and the community audit participation are required. On the other hand, we are also planning to provide a standardized model of centralized exchange access for 100% asset certification and emergency measures to deal with exchange attacks, which we will be released later.
Speed: Aelf has been working on improving performance, which is transparent to users which they can also experience by themselves.

An Da
What effect does Aelf token have on the Aelf ecosystem? Holding Aelf, what benefits will users receive?

Zhuling Chen
Holding ELF enables you to use all the services on the Aelf network. ELF has a deflating system where the total amount will reduce as the network grows. token holders can also vote for the nodes to run the network and also vote for big decisions in the network. part of the fees in the system will also be distributed to token holders via a smart contract

ahihi132
Which companies do you view them as potential partners and that they are somewhat also beneficial for both the user base and Aelf itself?

Zhuling Chen
Great question, if I could write a wish list, that will be: let medium-sized financial institutions to use Aelf to challenge the big boys. Let telecommunication companies use Aelf for micro-payment and other innovative business models. We also would like to try out a few public sector projects, which blockchain will is still more transparency and trust

Misun
Q1: Which programming languages are you using in your project? And why?
Q2-What are another big MILESTONES you have planned for 2020 roadmap and how are they supposed to benefit your costumers? Will it be an exciting year?

Haobo Ma
For Q1: We mainly use C# for development, I personally like it. Performance is good, development environment IDEs are strong, and C# creators are influential in the industry. We believe in the right thing, though it may take a while to develop. The smart contract will then add support for multiple languages, such as WebAssembly, depending on the needs of the community. Now it seems that C# is enough.

Hambi crypto
Which platforms are your competitors? How will you soar above them, and what better things do you offer than them? So, What’s your outlook on the future of cryptocurrencies in this year and next few years?

Haobo Ma
As I have already mentioned this before, Eth and Eos. We provide better performance, cross-chain support (already implemented), end-users do not need to know the details of the blockchain, developer’s payment models and so on.

Floris-Jan
What plans is Aelf making to prevent centralized exchange to take over the DPoS algorithm like what happened to Steem? Are we talking about blacklisting exchange wallets, or having the foundation say "No", or putting all trust in the community?

Zhuling Chen
Great question, Floris. I’m not going to give away all the details of what Haobo has proposed to work on this, but in a nutshell, in Aelf system, exchange wallets will not be allowed to vote, but only the sub-wallets for each individual can vote. This will also help exchanges to prevent hacking and theft in the future

Alex
What your plans in place for global expansion, are Aelf wallet focusing on the only market at this time? Or focus on building and developing or getting customers and users, or partnerships? Can you explain this?

Haobo Ma
Our core focus will be through the developers to promote, developers will help Aelf to attract more users. So our product has to be attractive to developers. Just like AWS, they only focus on getting their service right, their developers will think about how to promote it. We don't want to burden them in their promotion process.

Ellkay
What do you think are the major threats and barriers that could face the development and adoption of Aelf?

Haobo Ma
If I'm a DAPP developer and I need to promote my APP to people who don't recognize blockchain, then I'd like to choose a platform that doesn't have to explain a lot of blockchain details to the end-user, so they can use it easily. We've provided some options in the Boilerplate that allow you to log-in simply via QR code + Password, and our recommended Dapp is an independent wallet and a separate iOS/Android application.

ahihi132
Give me some important reasons why we need to hold Aelf token where in fact hundreds of projects failed and it went to bankruptcy or even developers run when they collect millions/billions of funds?

Haobo Ma
First of all, we will not give any suggestions as we only describe the fact that the long-term token holder will be able to govern the Aelf network, get Aelf mining reward and Aelf network profit. At the same time, Aelf network is a deflation model, Aelf network received transaction fees, profit dividends will immediately destroy 10% etc. All investments are risky, and we don't judge the behaviour of other developers. There are so many things in this world that cannot be understood and unfair. It is important to do our job well. I cannot explain these things.

见愁
I remember that boss Ma mentioned to only find those truly innovative applications and enterprises with blockchain, how to find and win partners in these aspects?

Haobo Ma
When Linus was developing Linux, I did not think he would find a lot of collaboration when the code was not good. The response we can give is that we already have a lot of interest in cooperation, including what we have announced, what we have not announced, etc.

见愁
How interested are cloud computing providers in participating nodes?

Haobo Ma
The vast majority of our nodes should be using cloud services, and as long as a large number of our 17 nodes and other candidate nodes are based on cloud services, our network robustness is determined by these cloud computing providers. Of course, in the expansion, we can also use cloud computing services.



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Telegram AMA - Summary

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Zhuling Chen

It’s always great to hang out in this group. This group means a lot to the Aelf community. It is the first Aelf community and has been there through all the ups and downs in the world. I would like to start with wishing everyone is staying safe at home during the virus outbreak. It definitely has been a difficult time for all of us, but together we can pull through it.

We understand that the situation is quite striking to all of us. But I really believe that the solution to the virus outbreak is about more global coordination and collaboration.

All of you to be assured, our team in different places are all safe and working from home as normal.

The Aelf team in Beijing were among the early ones experiencing the virus outbreak. As everyone was on the way home for Lunar New Year holiday and then experienced a total city lock-down followed by a 40 days’ work from home policy. It was definitely not easy for them, but our team stayed strong, took necessary precautions and focused on work with the right morale. Mappo has recently published some tips on how to work from home effectively based on our experience. Do check it out. Despite not working in the office since February, we have achieved great progress, including launching Aelf 1.0 preview, which is an important milestone in technical delivery and also the roadmap to mainnet launch (which listed out the essential steps for the community to work together to launch a successful public network)

Let's first talk about Aelf v1.0 preview. It is the cornerstone of the mainnet launch. The product itself has all the features that the public network is needed. The codebase has been reviewed and tested rigorously by the team. And a few highlights of how the network would look like:

  1. The code allows a stable and high throughput blockchain network to operate publicly.

  2. For developers, they will love how flexible the system is to be customized, the number of tools and documentation to help them start developing applications on the network

  3. For the whole community, the system is an ever-evolving one where the voting system is ready in place to conduct network-wide voting on various topics, such as transaction fee adjustment, network protocol upgrade, incentive adjustment, etc

  4. Aelf system is able to run multi-chain architecture where each side chain will host different applications and still ready to work with each other

So you may ask since the software is ready, why have we not yet launched the public network? The answer, in short, is that a public blockchain is launched not by a team but through a community effort and that's why we are coordinating the community effort based on the roadmap we proposed. Aelf team has launched the public testnet based on Aelf v1.0 preview and currently, all nodes are under the team. The goal is to let the community and elected nodes to take it over and launch it on a global scale. Not only launch it but also be familiar with the network and also set the launch parameters in a decentralized way. If we take a car as an example, we have made the car, but ultimately the drivers are you guys and therefore before it really hits on the road, we need to guide the community to do a test drive, adjust the car based on what really works for YOU, and ultimately let YOU drive the car freely and safely

So how are we going to help the community launch the network:

First of all, we have launched the codes, documents about the economic system and governance model and technical features. With all the things available, you are able to understand what the system is about, as a token holder what's your benefit in the system, and being a node in the system plays a big role in the governance

Next, without yet electing the nodes, we will get all token holders to join the current Aelf network through a mapping event. That means as long as you have Aelf tokens, you will be able to get 1:1 test tokens on the public testnet. that gives you full access to all the features, and you will feel like you are already using the mainnet. You will get rewarded in making transactions, voting, etc.

Do try out the Aelf wallet and voting features, you will see how easy to transfer tokens cross-chain. and also how flexible the system allows people to make changes. For example, the community may want to adjust the block rewarding parameters or fees to use certain services on mainnet, they can initiate a discussion and then vote in the system and once voted through, it will be reflected on mainnet.

For people or organizations that want to play a bigger role in the system, we will do a dry run of node election. Take it as the real node election before mainnet launch. We will see who the active members of the community are and being trusted by the community. Among the nodes, we will form a network launch committee. The committee will be the crucial party to oversees and ensures the smooth launch of Aelf mainnet, instead of just relying on the Aelf team. This is our step towards decentralization.

The committee will agree on the actual launch process, final checking all the parameters in the system to be ready for launch and then decide when the criteria are met to launch the network. Once all that is decided. We will invite all interested nodes to apply for the election and let the community know what's their plan to grow the Aelf network. the network will initially be launched with a few nodes from the committee and gradually be replaced by the selected nodes (a bootstrap phase). Along the way, we will work with exchanges to conduct token swap (which we are also designing an innovative system to further enhance security and usability of Aelf tokens in exchanges)

Among this isolated and worrisome time, at least we all have something to look forward to: a successful launch of Aelf network! Once it is launched, we are excited to see a vibrant and technically superior network that is good for Dapps to run on top of it.

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Doris Guo
Q1: As a Blockchain start-up, what difficulties have you overcome when starting Aelf project? What motivates you to solve difficulties and achieve success today?

Zhuling Chen
First, just like launching any start-up, its community and investors are usually regional. There is always some bias on if Asian projects are solid. It is really rare to have an Asian project to be supported by western funds and community from day 1. We were lucky to have overcome that obstacle. Having a global investor line-up from day 1. Having a global team from day 1 and also working with a global community from day 1. This benefited us to have an international perspective which is crucial in the blockchain industry.

Secondly, as a hardcore technology company, it is really hard to put in plain words what is our ambition. Our ambition is huge, achieving key innovations in multiple fronts of blockchain technology and organically combined them to serve real users for the future. Our marketing team has been working really hard to elaborate on what Aelf is. Now we have come to a point that the product is ready. Therefore, it is much easier for all of us to understand how solid Aelf is by trying out the network ourselves! That's exactly what the following events will be about - Try out all the exciting features of Aelf network before mainnet launch.

Doris Guo
Q2: What critical problems do you see occurring in the blockchain industry nowadays? How does Aelf solve these problems?

Haobo Ma
First, we need to distinguish the difference between BTC and ETH. One is Digital Cash and the other is the Smart Contract Platform. Aelf addresses most of the latter's problems. In short, it can be summarized as performance, end-user friendly, developer-friendly, network economy, and self-governance and upgrading. Each of these areas will probably take up a lot of space, and as a whole are the issues described in our two white papers. In short, Aelf is faster, end-users do not need to know the rules of the blockchain, developers can set up the development environment in 10 minutes, have a good economic model and can carry out proposal governance on the chain.

Doris Guo
Q3: What is your long-term vision about the industry which Aelf is working at? Are you afraid someday there will be another project with more innovative technology can replace Aelf?

Haobo Ma
Let's talk about where Aelf stands in the traditional Internet. It is essentially a cloud service provider, Aelf provides resources and infrastructure for developers to deploy their services, known as smart contracts. We eventually want Aelf to grow like AAA (Amazon, Azure, AliCloud). Because Aelf is a network that can be dynamically scaled, we can accept any new technology, some of the more advanced technologies we can put on a side chain.

Doris Guo
Q4: Why did Aelf choose for cross-chain interaction?

Haobo Ma
As I mentioned earlier, Aelf solves the Smart Contract Platform problem. However, there are other digital cash problems as well which we would need to use existing infrastructure such as Bitcoin's chain in order to interact with Bitcoin. There are a lot of infrastructures on Ethereum that we want to interact with. Multi-chain on Aelf network mainly is to isolate resources to improve network performance and network stability.

Doris Guo
Q5: What difficulties do the Aelf team have now (I talk about COVID-19)? How does the Aelf team solve it? Have you changed the roadmap?

Haobo Ma
There is no great impact. The teams in Singapore and Beijing are communicating with each other remotely on a regular basis. The only change is that most of us are now working from home which has no impact and in fact, it seems conducive to the acceptance of more community developers in the future to come. From the internal working schedule and development timeline, there is no great impact. We do not publish specific timeline as we do not want short term holders (traders) to create too much negative pressure on product development.

Doris Guo
Q6: Aelf is an open-source blockchain, and there's the common problem of taking a substantial amount of time for the different participants to agree on strategic decisions. What types of governance models do you use in Aelf to address this issue???

Haobo Ma
The issue is about public blockchain network, and who can decide the direction of the network. Our answer is long-term holders. For the short-term holders (traders), we refuse to allow them to participate in any discussion of the direction of Aelf because the short-term holders are likely to make a profit and sell quickly, which is essentially the same example of a person who cheats the President and then runs away for his personal gain. We defined a number of proposal processes, including the logic of the two-party system in the United States, and the participation in the referendum to ensure that the final proposal represents the majority. At the same time, we are looking for some legal solutions to avoid bifurcation, such as prohibiting exchanges from intervening in bifurcated new tokens. While we cannot limit a community, we should be able to find ways to limit a centralized organization. This restriction is akin to a ban on national secession.

Doris Guo
Q7: How will Aelf empower Investors, Companies, Developers, Platform Users to deliver impactful solutions and bring value to people all over the world?

Haobo Ma
We will learn from the operational experience of successful foundations such as the LINUX foundation and license some commercial companies to use Aelf solutions to solve business problems. At the same time, Aelf is an open-source product under the MIT License, and we accept any use that does not violate this open-source principle.

Zhuling Chen
Let me add on to Haobo’s statement: to incentivize and empower the community, we are also exploring ways to let the community decide how to use the funds for Aelf (allocate to where it matters to our community) once mainnet is launched. This means you guys can decide what are the projects to be funded on Aelf, etc

Doris Guo
Q8:When will the node campaign start? How will Aelf attract users to participate in nodes election?

Haobo Ma
According to our published roadmap, the timeline can be dynamic, but I don't think it will be too long. The main idea is to let everyone understand what we envision Aelf to be like, and what are the rights and benefits of being a node in the future. We hope to find nodes that fully recognize the efforts of Aelf at the present stage and are willing to participate in the future development of Aelf. We will run a simulation of the node campaign on the testnet and set up a temporary mainnet launch committee. Please follow our official Twitter for more upcoming details!

Doris Guo
Q9: Token swap form 2 is some kind of cross-chain transfer? It will be handled by a smart contract?

Haobo Ma
It is handled by the smart contract, we define an asset cross-chain transfer protocol, but it may be opened after a snapshot.

Doris Guo
Q10: Which Exchanges will support token swap? Do you have any plan to list Aelf in some big exchange like Binance, Houbi, Kucoin, .......?

Haobo Ma
We are already in talks with some exchanges, there is still competition between exchanges, and many are still hoping to attract more users by getting access to mainnet token swap early.

Doris Guo
Q11: Aside conversion of the current tokens to mainnet tokens, what other main features will be accomplished with the mainnet launch?

Haobo Ma
We have a documentation file that has been published, which has listed some features: https://Aelf.io/gridcn/Aelf_public_testnet_and_supporting_features_introduction_en_v1.0.pdf

Doris Guo
Q12: Do you have any plan to burn or buyback your coin?

Haobo Ma
We have plans for the community to govern through DAO, we have no interest in short-term price incentive adjustment as we would prefer to drive the project to higher adoption. After mainnet starts operation, there will be a part of network revenue get destroyed automatically.

Doris Guo
Q13: Often, as a newbie developer, I face difficulties on most blockchains. How easy and convenient is it for me on Aelf, and what programming language and tools are needed??

Haobo Ma
We set up staging for DAPP developers on GitHub and configured CI. Develop a smart contract using C# with React Native on the front end. So, in fact, developers can fork the source code without setting up the environment locally, and you can conduct unit testing with the help of CI. You can also release the smart contract and generate the installation package of iOS and android online. https://github.com/AElfProject/Aelf-boilerplate

Doris Guo
Q14: What is the progress of business development and what are some of your commercial partnerships? How will Aelf rapidly develop the number & performance of DAPP?

Haobo Ma
First of all, the blockchain industry is still fairly small and users with ETH and EOS wallets are considered a very small group and its not effective to even promote within these groups. What we need to consider is how to enable users who have never been exposed to blockchain to use DAPP. The competitiveness of Aelf is to make it easier for Aelf developers to promote their DAPP to ordinary users, rather than to teach ordinary users a lot on blockchain knowledge. The average user doesn't like to hear about private keys, mnemonic, Gas Price, RAM, CPU, etc. Only until we solve such problems, companies that need to solve problems through blockchain will be more inclined to use Aelf in technology selection. Therefore, our main work is to explain the competitive advantages of Aelf, ETH and EOS to everyone. We have some business cooperation’s, but we also believe that simply through case-by-case business cooperation will not be able to gain adoption so quickly, therefore we still need to put our products to stay ahead of the next generation.

Doris Guo
Q15: What other activities can encourage more people to be confident about Aelf?

Haobo Ma
We are only going to state the truth by having those that have faith in us to stay and those that don't to leave. The development of Aelf is not driven by a single foundation, but by a steady stream of contributions from the community. In the future, we will also place the activities in the DAO for on-chain governance, and let the community make decisions by itself.

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Kun Aguero
As you know that in the present market situation many new coins or either dying or thriving for liquidity? How will you manage this liquidity problem?

Zhuling Chen
Aelf started in 2017. we have gone through a few cycles in the market, still, remember the big down period in 2018-2019. Aelf is financially solid and the team has always been working hard. if you are referring to liquidity in exchanges, we are among the lucky ones that are listed in all major exchanges

Xinshu Dong
Hello, great discussions! I would like to ask what are the criteria to join the committee for launching the mainnet? Would love to participate

Zhuling Chen
Hi xinshu, great to see you here. The committee will be chosen among the nodes elected during the testnet dry run. Which means, it is really important to participate in the testnet dry run and also start to establish your reputation in the community so that people will elect you as a node. The detailed criteria will include what is your plan to help Aelf to grow, tech competency and reputation.

An Da
What are Aelf’s achievements in 2019? Who had supported you to get those things?

Zhuling Chen
To name a few, in 2019, Aelf is one of the most active projects on GitHub. This means Aelf is evolving and improving fast in this space and our team has the tech strength. In addition, we have also successfully listed on all major cloud service providers, such as AWS, Azure, Google. So large companies can easily launch Aelf side chains in their organization with minimum hassle.

John
How does the voting for master nodes candidates occur? And why is the development of this system important for your project?

Zhuling Chen
Voting is going to be pretty simple. All token holders can vote for the nodes they support on our block explorer.

Miha
After mainnet lunch, how will you assure that transactional fees will stay low? We know what sometimes happens to fees on ETH blockchain.

Zhuling Chen
First of all, due to the fact that is Aelf is scalability, this will reduce transaction fee. Secondly, all transaction fees will be voted by the nodes (which will be elected by you). So they will represent your interest

Bobbyfernandito
Currently, as we see All projects are concerned with the speed and security. So, tell us here - what are the facilities Aelf provide to their user and investors?

Haobo Ma
Security: we have an automated smart contract code audit. During contract deployment, production nodes and the community audit participation are required. On the other hand, we are also planning to provide a standardized model of centralized exchange access for 100% asset certification and emergency measures to deal with exchange attacks, which we will be released later.
Speed: Aelf has been working on improving performance, which is transparent to users which they can also experience by themselves.

An Da
What effect does Aelf token have on the Aelf ecosystem? Holding Aelf, what benefits will users receive?

Zhuling Chen
Holding ELF enables you to use all the services on the Aelf network. ELF has a deflating system where the total amount will reduce as the network grows. token holders can also vote for the nodes to run the network and also vote for big decisions in the network. part of the fees in the system will also be distributed to token holders via a smart contract

ahihi132
Which companies do you view them as potential partners and that they are somewhat also beneficial for both the user base and Aelf itself?

Zhuling Chen
Great question, if I could write a wish list, that will be: let medium-sized financial institutions to use Aelf to challenge the big boys. Let telecommunication companies use Aelf for micro-payment and other innovative business models. We also would like to try out a few public sector projects, which blockchain will is still more transparency and trust

Misun
Q1: Which programming languages are you using in your project? And why?
Q2-What are another big MILESTONES you have planned for 2020 roadmap and how are they supposed to benefit your costumers? Will it be an exciting year?

Haobo Ma
For Q1: We mainly use C# for development, I personally like it. Performance is good, development environment IDEs are strong, and C# creators are influential in the industry. We believe in the right thing, though it may take a while to develop. The smart contract will then add support for multiple languages, such as WebAssembly, depending on the needs of the community. Now it seems that C# is enough.

Hambi crypto
Which platforms are your competitors? How will you soar above them, and what better things do you offer than them? So, What’s your outlook on the future of cryptocurrencies in this year and next few years?

Haobo Ma
As I have already mentioned this before, Eth and Eos. We provide better performance, cross-chain support (already implemented), end-users do not need to know the details of the blockchain, developer’s payment models and so on.

Floris-Jan
What plans is Aelf making to prevent centralized exchange to take over the DPoS algorithm like what happened to Steem? Are we talking about blacklisting exchange wallets, or having the foundation say "No", or putting all trust in the community?

Zhuling Chen
Great question, Floris. I’m not going to give away all the details of what Haobo has proposed to work on this, but in a nutshell, in Aelf system, exchange wallets will not be allowed to vote, but only the sub-wallets for each individual can vote. This will also help exchanges to prevent hacking and theft in the future

Alex
What your plans in place for global expansion, are Aelf wallet focusing on the only market at this time? Or focus on building and developing or getting customers and users, or partnerships? Can you explain this?

Haobo Ma
Our core focus will be through the developers to promote, developers will help Aelf to attract more users. So our product has to be attractive to developers. Just like AWS, they only focus on getting their service right, their developers will think about how to promote it. We don't want to burden them in their promotion process.

Ellkay
What do you think are the major threats and barriers that could face the development and adoption of Aelf?

Haobo Ma
If I'm a DAPP developer and I need to promote my APP to people who don't recognize blockchain, then I'd like to choose a platform that doesn't have to explain a lot of blockchain details to the end-user, so they can use it easily. We've provided some options in the Boilerplate that allow you to log-in simply via QR code + Password, and our recommended Dapp is an independent wallet and a separate iOS/Android application.

ahihi132
Give me some important reasons why we need to hold Aelf token where in fact hundreds of projects failed and it went to bankruptcy or even developers run when they collect millions/billions of funds?

Haobo Ma
First of all, we will not give any suggestions as we only describe the fact that the long-term token holder will be able to govern the Aelf network, get Aelf mining reward and Aelf network profit. At the same time, Aelf network is a deflation model, Aelf network received transaction fees, profit dividends will immediately destroy 10% etc. All investments are risky, and we don't judge the behaviour of other developers. There are so many things in this world that cannot be understood and unfair. It is important to do our job well. I cannot explain these things.

见愁
I remember that boss Ma mentioned to only find those truly innovative applications and enterprises with blockchain, how to find and win partners in these aspects?

Haobo Ma
When Linus was developing Linux, I did not think he would find a lot of collaboration when the code was not good. The response we can give is that we already have a lot of interest in cooperation, including what we have announced, what we have not announced, etc.

见愁
How interested are cloud computing providers in participating nodes?

Haobo Ma
The vast majority of our nodes should be using cloud services, and as long as a large number of our 17 nodes and other candidate nodes are based on cloud services, our network robustness is determined by these cloud computing providers. Of course, in the expansion, we can also use cloud computing services.


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Does lending your crypto to defi platform trigger a taxable event?

Obviously the interest you earn on lending crypto is a taxable event but does lending the coins trigger a capital gains event? The ATO in this post below appears to be saying yes.

https://community.ato.gov.au/t5/Cryptocurrency/Tax-implications-on-lending-Bitcoin/td-p/25488/page/2

This would make long term holders very unlikely to want to lend their coins as they will have to pay the capital gain on those coins. This will really slow the development of defi in Australia if the ATO takes this interpretation.

Has anyone looked into this?