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There have been many recent posts about the blackmail email scam, so I have written this post and will keep it stickied until the posts about the scam die down. If you are reading this because you have received one of these emails and you are worried, you can stop worrying. The blackmail email scam is a spam campaign that is sent out to thousands of addresses at a time. The threats are lies and you do not have anything to worry about. In many cases, the emails will contain information about you such as your name, part or all of your phone number, and your password. The emails may also look like they were sent from your own email address. The data is gathered from data breaches, and if the email looks like it came from your account that is due to email spoofing. You can use the service Have I Been Pwned? to see if you are in any publicly known data breaches. If you receive an email that contains a password that you currently use, you should immediately change that. Current recommended password guidelines say that you should use a different, complex password for every account. You can generate and save passwords using a password manager for convenience. You should also be using two factor authentication using an app like Google Authenticator instead of receiving codes through SMS.
Here are some news articles about this scam. Here is a story from Brian Krebs, and here is a story from the New York Times.
Below are a few examples, but if you receive an email that is similar but not the same as the examples you see, that does not matter and does not mean that the email is real. The spammers constantly switch up their templates in order to bypass spam filters, so it's normal to receive an email that hasn't yet been posted online.
Hey there
So I am the hacker who cracked your email address and device a few weeks back.
You typed in your pwd on one of the sites you visited, and I intercepted that.
Here is your password from (redacted) upon time of compromise: (redacted)
Obviously you can can change it, or even already changed it.
However it won't really matter, my malware modified it every time.
Do not really try to contact me personally or find me.
Via your email, I uploaded harmful code to your Operation System.
I saved your entire contacts together with buddies, fellow workers, loved ones along with a entire history of visits to the World wide web resources.
Also I set up a Virus on your system.
You aren't my only target, I generally lock computers and ask for a ransom.
But I was hit by the web pages of romantic material that you normally stop by.
I am in shock of your own fantasies! I have never ever noticed anything at all like this!
Consequently, when you had enjoyment on piquant web-sites (you know what I am talking about!) I made screenshot with utilizing my program from your camera of yours device.
There after, I put together them to the content of the currently viewed site.
There will certainly be giggling when I send these pics to your connections!
Nevertheless I am certain you do not need this.
Therefore, I expect to have payment from you for my silence.
I feel $859 is an satisfactory price for this!
Pay with Bitcoin.
My Bitcoin wallet is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If you do not really understand how to do this - submit in to Google 'how to transfer money to the bitcoin wallet'. It is easy.
Immediately after getting the given amount, all your files will be right away destroyed automatically. My computer virus will also get rid of itself through your operating-system.
My Trojan viruses have auto alert, so I know when this specific e mail is read.
I give you 2 days (48 hours) to make a payment.
If this does not occur - just about all your associates will get outrageous pictures from your darkish secret life and your system will be blocked as well after two days.
Do not end up being foolish!
Police or buddies won't support you for sure ...
P.S I can provide you with recommendation for the future. Do not type in your security passwords on risky web pages.
I wish for your wisdom.
Bon voyage.
Your computer device was attacked by the malicious app .
Whats the trouble? I placed my malicious agent on a erotica portal, you clicked on this data and promptly adjusted the malware to your computer .
The hostile program made your selfie-camera shooting and I enjoy the videotape with you dash your doodle.
In next 5 hours this hostile program copied all your contacts.
Right now, I receive your all your contact information and video with you masturbating, and now if you wish me to destroy all the data affect payment 350 $USD in BTC digital currency.
Other way I want forward that this record to all your contacts .
I forward you my Bitcoin wallet - XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX You possess 27 hours after reading. In a case if I possess transaction I am going to undo that this record once for all.
I beg pardon for my mistakes- I live in China .
P.S. this postal address, I have thieved it
Good day,
If you had been more careful while caressing yourself, I wouldn't worry you. I don't think that playing with yourself is very bad, but when all your colleagues, relatives and friends get a video recording of it - it is definitely bad for you.
I placed malicious software on a website for adults (with porn) which was visited by you. When the target taps on a play button, your device starts recording the screen and all cameras on your device begin to work.
Moreover, my program allows a remote desktop connection with keylogger function from the device, so I could collect all contacts from your e-mail, messengers and other social networks. I'm writing on this e-mail cuz it's your working address, so you must check it.
I suppose that three hundred twenty usd is good enough for this little misstep. I made a split screen video (recorded from your screen (u have interesting tastes ) and camera ooooooh... its awful AF)
So it's your choice. If you want me to erase this compromising evidence, use my Bitcoin wallet address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX You have one day after opening my message; I put a special tracking pixel in it, so when you will open it I will see. If you want me to show you the proofs, reply to this message and I will send my creation to five contacts that I got from your contacts.
P.S. You can try to complain to the police, but I don't think that they can help, the investigation will last for 5 month- I'm from Ukraine - so I dgf lmao
Hey there
So I am the hacker who cracked your email address and device a few weeks back.
You typed in your pwd on one of the sites you visited, and I intercepted that.
Here is your password from (redacted) upon time of compromise: (redacted)
Obviously you can can change it, or even already changed it.
However it won't really matter, my malware modified it every time.
Do not really try to contact me personally or find me.
Via your email, I uploaded harmful code to your Operation System.
I saved your entire contacts together with buddies, fellow workers, loved ones along with a entire history of visits to the World wide web resources.
Also I set up a Virus on your system.
You aren't my only target, I generally lock computers and ask for a ransom.
But I was hit by the web pages of romantic material that you normally stop by.
I am in shock of your own fantasies! I have never ever noticed anything at all like this!
Consequently, when you had enjoyment on piquant web-sites (you know what I am talking about!) I made screenshot with utilizing my program from your camera of yours device.
There after, I put together them to the content of the currently viewed site.
There will certainly be giggling when I send these pics to your connections!
Nevertheless I am certain you do not need this.
Therefore, I expect to have payment from you for my silence.
I feel $859 is an satisfactory price for this!
Pay with Bitcoin.
My Bitcoin wallet is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If you do not really understand how to do this - submit in to Google 'how to transfer money to the bitcoin wallet'. It is easy.
Immediately after getting the given amount, all your files will be right away destroyed automatically. My computer virus will also get rid of itself through your operating-system.
My Trojan viruses have auto alert, so I know when this specific e mail is read.
I give you 2 days (48 hours) to make a payment.
If this does not occur - just about all your associates will get outrageous pictures from your darkish secret life and your system will be blocked as well after two days.
Do not end up being foolish!
Police or buddies won't support you for sure ...
P.S I can provide you with recommendation for the future. Do not type in your security passwords on risky web pages.
I wish for your wisdom.
Bon voyage.
I Have YOUR code. I rule phone xxxx
I SENT this newsletter from YOUR ACCOUNT.
I look your device.
I am in daze of your sex act fantasies!
I made backup your contacts and files. I made screenshots from your digital camera of yours device.
I want 888 $ to my (Bitcoin
My )Bitcoin currency
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If YOU don't transaction )Bitcoin. I share my quake of your golden age of porn fantasies with your contacts!
If you do not know how to do this - enter into Google/
=how to transfer money to a Bitcoin& wallet-
Time 30 hours.
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Hello!
I'm a programmer who cracked your email account and device about half year ago. You entered a password on one of the insecure site you visited, and I catched it.
Of course you can will change your password, or already made it. But it doesn't matter, my rat software update it every time.
Please don't try to contact me or find me, it is impossible, since I sent you an email from your email account.
Through your e-mail, I uploaded malicious code to your Operation System. I saved all of your contacts with friends, colleagues, relatives and a complete history of visits to the Internet resources. Also I installed a rat software on your device and long tome spying for you.
You are not my only victim, I usually lock devices and ask for a ransom. But I was struck by the sites of intimate content that you very often visit.
I am in shock of your reach fantasies! Wow! I've never seen anything like this! I did not even know that SUCH content could be so exciting!
So, when you had fun on intime sites (you know what I mean!) I made screenshot with using my program from your camera of yours device. After that, I jointed them to the content of the currently viewed site.
Will be funny when I send these photos to your contacts! And if your relatives see it? BUT I'm sure you don't want it. I definitely would not want to ...
I will not do this if you pay me a little amount. I think $877 is a nice price for it!
I accept only Bitcoins. My BTC wallet: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If you have difficulty with this - Ask Google "how to make a payment on a bitcoin wallet". It's easy. After receiving the above amount, all your data will be immediately removed automatically. My virus will also will be destroy itself from your operating system.
My Trojan have auto alert, after this email is looked, I will be know it!
You have 2 days (48 hours) for make a payment. If this does not happen - all your contacts will get crazy shots with your dirty life! And so that you do not obstruct me, your device will be locked (also after 48 hours)
Do not take this frivolously! This is the last warning! Various security services or antiviruses won't help you for sure (I have already collected all your data).
Here are the recommendations of a professional: Antiviruses do not help against modern malicious code. Just do not enter your passwords on unsafe sites!
I hope you will be prudent. Bye.
Same as before but they increased the amount
I got an order from someone to kill you and your family
but I am far from your house
if you still love your family, I ask you to transfer 0.1 BTC to me.
If you report this email, I will immediately kill your family.
FORWARD THIS MAIL TO WHOEVER IS IMPORTANT IN YOUR COMPANY AND CAN MAKE DECISION!
We Hacked network. We Caught Communications. We Backuped DATA And DOCUMENTS. We send this mail to you in YOUR account.
After analyzing documents. We found Illegal activity - HIDING TAXES.
That we want?
I want two (2) Bitcoin To wallet Bitcoin. 1Dz7DbQmE7SNm3C5mb9syPcctgZECcCEbL
That we do if you don't pay bitcoin?
We send these Documents and Proofs to your Tax Department.
And in this time Your network will be DDoS. Read that in this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service\_attack
We are locking your operation system. Our friends, WannaCry, ready start and waiting command. Read that in this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry\_ransomware\_attack
This is our guarantee, that you don't clean evidence and building a protection policy.
If you don't pay by in 7 days, attack will start.
Attack including.
1.DDOS 2.Locking operation system 3.Sending all documents in Tax Departament
Yours service going down permanently and price to stop will increase to Four (4) BTC, Price will go up one (1) BTC for every day of the attack.
This is not a joke.
Our attacks are extremely powerful - sometimes over 1 Tbps per second. And we pass CloudFlare and others remote protections! So, no cheap protection will help.
Prevent this problem all with just Two (2) BTC Pay to our wallet Bitcoin. 1Dz7DbQmE7SNm3C5mb9syPcctgZECcCEbL
AND YOU WILL NEVER AGAIN HEAR FROM US!
If you read, hear fake-experts and assure yourself that this is not true. Remember that they are not responsible and your life don't important him. Their business is to speak and make money. Your business to do and make money and stay freedom.
All mistakes in text we do specily.
Bitcoin is anonymous, nobody will ever know you cooperated.
Time started after open this mail. To track the reading of a message and the actions in it, I use the facebook pixel. Read that in this link
And here are some common keywords used in the email so that this thread can be found by people Googling the email:
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A few years ago, in the critical currency market, a new coin was able to combine the advantages of fiat money and the stability inherent in cryptocurrency projects. This digital coin has become Tether currency. At one time, analysts have proposed that this coin will be able to demonstrate a significant increase in popularity and market value, but now most of the news associated with this asset is of scandalous color.
Tether (USDT) Price Prediction
Therefore, it is necessary to get acquainted with this cryptocurrency in detail, and also to find out if the price goes up or down.
USDT cryptocurrency was created as a digital tool for linking fiat currency to cryptocurrency. It can be used as an alternative to the method of confirming the solvency. The crypto community has long discussed the need for such a tool, but it appeared only in 2015.
The head of the Tether company is at the same time the head of the largest cryptocurrency exchange Bitfinex — Jan Louis Van Der Velde. The software protocol developed by Jay Wylett, who previously created the ICO concept, was taken as the basis of the technology used by Tether. In early 2013, Jay developed an advanced protocol Mastercoin, later renamed as Omni. This protocol allowed to create new layers on chains of bitcoin blocks without making changes to the original program code. Such a solution enables the formation of new crypto-assets based on Bitcoin.
USDT links fiat currency to cryptocurrency
The beta version of the Tether platform was released in 2014. The project has managed to collect $200 million. This fact confirmed once again the interest of users to the new system. A stable version of the site was released in 2015. Looking into the past, we can fairly marvel at the success of Tether project. Indeed, as early as the beginning of 2017, the volume of funds providing the cryptoactive USDT was about $ 7 million. But already on September 15, the company’s account was $442.9 million.
Teter also caught one of the peaks of its value at the time of cryptocurrency recovery and as of January 2018 was equal to $1.04.
USDT reached $1.4 in January 2018
Tether is supposed to be the digital equivalent of the US dollar. In fact, this cryptocurrency should always be equal to the US dollar, that is, 1 USDT = 1 USD. But is it truly so? The market capitalization of USDT had steadily decreased and recently rose up again during the last time, but due to the latest news the Tether prices crashed down again.
The stable coin is not that stable yet. For most of the month, the USDT traded below the estimated cost of $1.00 per token, dropping to $0.97 on April 29, 2018. What could precede it?
USDT dropped down to $0.97 on April 24, 2019
On April 24, 2019, Tether issued 300 million new USDT tokens. Attention to this information was drawn by Whale Alert, a popular service for tracking the movements of large amounts of cryptocurrencies on Twitter.
This data is confirmed by the transaction browser of the Omni protocol, which works on the basis of the bitcoin blockchain. Tether actually credited 300 million new USDTs to its vault. At the moment, it is not known exactly how the company will dispose of new tokens.
According to CoinMarketCap, the issue of USDT today is 2.827 billion tokens. Obviously, the new 300 million tokens is a substantial amount.
The release of a new portion of tokens on Omni looks somewhat strange against the background of plans for a partial transfer of USDT to the Tron blockchain and the addition of support for cryptocurrency by some exchanges. Some users suggested that adding a new blockchain to the USDT system would reduce the emission of a bitcoin-based token.
Nearly half a billion USDT stablecoins hit the market after the fall in the value of Bitcoin and other coins last November. According to CoinMarketCap, at the moment the number of stable tokens Tether is 2.2 billion, while in the period of market decline, their turnover was 1.7 billion — Bitcoinexchangeguide reports.
According to TrustNodes, the greatest demand for USDT is in China, where one Tether-dollar costs 7.08 yuan, while the Fiat rate is 6.7 yuan to 1 dollar. Large trading volumes are observed in Brazil and South Africa (mainly for international payments). Tether, on the other hand, said that to meet growing demand, the company prepared, but has not yet released another 2.5 billion crypto dollars to the market.
It should be said that USDT is one of the most popular cryptocurrencies in trading pairs, especially with those coins, which can not be bought directly for Fiat.
Cryptocurrency researcher Alex Kruger analyzed the situation around the Bitfinex exchange and its related companies and came to the conclusion that the stablecoin Tether (USDT) is provided with currency reserves only 75%.
Based on the information from official documents, Kruger in a series of tweets briefly describes the sequence of events around a well-known trading platform. The first thing he notes is that Bitfinex really had a “hole” of $850 million, formed at the end of last year.
Means “stuck” in third-party processing Crypto Capital. Representatives of the latter claim that they were confiscated by the authorities of several countries. After this statement, Bitfinex management suspected payment processing of fraud.
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Kruger stresses that until November 2018, the USDT coins were fully backed by a fiat dollar. However, between November 2018 and March 2019, the Bitfinex Issuer of Stablecoins, Tether, transferred to the Stock Exchange $625 million.
According to CoinDesk, this was done “to solve problems with Bitfinex liquidity, not related to Tether”. Since then, the USDT has ceased to be fully backed by the fiat dollar.
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As a result, the analyst concluded that Tether stablecoins are currently backed up by 75% with cash and their equivalents, and by 25% with a loan secured by iFinex shares.
After the latest news, it is rarely easy to forecast the future of Tether. Nevertheless, some analysts are keep guessing the USDT potential future. For instance, analyst JP (@jpthor__) agrees with Kruger’s conclusion that initially Tether was fully secured, but after problems with Bitfinex, it was backed up by only 75%.
https://i.redd.it/kkxkh56w75v21.png
According to his note, if the prosecutor’s office in New York is busy with companies, then Bitfinex may cease to exist, but Tether will “survive”.
As for other independent crypto-researchers, Hasu has come to the conclusion that if Tether is provided with 75% of reserves, then Bitfinex can hardly boast such a margin of financial strength.
https://i.redd.it/fffhw23385v21.png
Earlier, ForkLog reported that investors panicked more than $300 million in Bitcoins and Ethereum.
Despite recent news, USDT is traded on almost all crypto exchanges and has already become a trading pair almost everywhere (like Bitcoin). It is always equal to the Dollar, and therefore should not have big pumps, like other cryptocurrencies. The maximum drop on USDT/USD is not large. The growth of the coin could be only if your national currency falls strongly against the dollar. Simply put, waiting for the growth of the USDT is the same as waiting for the growth of the rates of the usual US dollar.
Whether to keep your money in USDT or not is up to you! With ChangeHero you can always buy and exchange your USDT without any limits in 5–7 minutes!
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Is this unlocked?
oh cool. yes it is
Guess we need an admin to unlock it. Some of our devs cant type in here yet.
@shiggidy @traysi ★★★★★ Can yall unlock this channel?
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
Should be open now
bhorn03/29/2019
open!
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
heya!
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Woot
theking03/29/2019
Glad to be here.
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
@Jeroz can you type now?
Jeroz03/29/2019
Works now
ty
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Great. Didn't really have an agenda for this meeting I'm told. Can open it up? Anyone have anything to start?
Bianca_NL03/29/2019
YaY
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
testnet voting on messaging bip?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
I like it.
@GhostDogsGhost You might be the main "answerer of questions" for this. Not sure where @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs is.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
anyone know if it's passed? if and when it'd be great to get some usage
Vincent03/29/2019
all good @traysi ★★★★★
Jeroz03/29/2019
Messaging is active on testnet now. The vote passed.
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
I'll try to clean up the permissions for this channel to make it simpler for future meetings.
Jeroz03/29/2019
There is no GUI yet to test it.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
sweet -- yeah just rpc for now
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
here
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
yay
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, for messaging. There is not GUI, we really want to test the protocol which you can use fully through the rpc console.
We understand that this limits the number of users that will want to do testing but we wanted to get it out there asap to find bugs
Jeroz03/29/2019
Is there list of commands / little guide on how to get started with them in the console?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, we wanted to let everyone know that we are going to try and get messaging protocol and restricted assets on mainnet at the same time. This means that the release for messaging might be delayed by a couple weeks. The devs are working really hard to make this happen and hope that the community is willing to wait a little longer for mainnet messaging.
There are commands like sendmessage listmessages and subscribe rpc calls yes
Jeroz03/29/2019
That would mean 1 hardfork instead of 2 right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Exactly @Jeroz
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
Hello!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, the Qt for messaging wont be released until after the hardfork, but the Qt for messaging and restricted assets would be in the same release.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Hello! Thanks for holding this meeting.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Will dividends also be included to that? @WhaleStreet (BW) (not sure if you are here)
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Dividends can be released at anytime it is completed as it doesn't require a hardfork
Jeroz03/29/2019
I meant the GUI update
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
For restricted assets, will owners of !uniquename have a grace period to claim $uniquename ?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I am not sure on the GUI for dividends.
We are still figuring out if we are going to allow for a grave period or not. I think we are leading to the answer of Yes there will be a grace period.
but we aren't sure yet
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
I've been studying and out of the loop of the RVN scene for a long time - is there any chance of someone updating me on what y'all talking about?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
We have also been going through and cleaning up issues in GitHub. Tried to clean up tags in there as well. We will probably start going though those on a weekly ->monthly basis to stay ahead of things.
Vincent03/29/2019
community seens to agree !ASSET has exclsuvie on $ASSET
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Silva -- that's open for discussion -- I think the general sentiment is that there should be some preference given to current asset owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne] We are talking about the roadmap and how the development of the new features are coming along.
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Lovely many thanks
Vincent03/29/2019
what is the justification on only a grace period?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Is it possible to reissue a !ownership as a $ownership?
Jeroz03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne]
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-tags-and-restricted-assets-84fe3070a226
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-kaaawww-2f72077aece
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I don't think is has exclusive rights. More like a first right of refusal for a couple months
Synicide03/29/2019
agree there should be some kind of grace period, or users that originally registered those assets will feel shafted
Vincent03/29/2019
but what is that justification?
if you are building Applein ur garage, you may need a few yrs to go public
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Issue being assets will cease to be unique with two different types about
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True.
We aren't sure on what approach will be taken yet
Synicide03/29/2019
should regular and restricted assets share the same 'uniqueness of naming'?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Please the community let us know what you think is fair.
This topic will 100% need to be discussed a lot
Vincent03/29/2019
when it was announced, there was a lot of discussion; most seemed to agree
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Jeroz Many thanks
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
If the consensus is that we shouldn't allow for ASSET! and $ASSET to be issued by different people then we will need to make sure that is the right approach. The code hasn't been written yet.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Some of this will depend on what we end up pricing the $ASSETS at (burn for issuance)..
Vincent03/29/2019
prcing shouldnt matter imo
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We need to determine how important unique asset names are, for varying types.
Vincent03/29/2019
should be the owner of the asset name
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Exactly
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey all, sorry im late :thumbsup:
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Howdy
Synicide03/29/2019
If someone registers !company123, and starts building a platform for themselves, seems they should be given an option to convert to $company123, and shouldnt have to worry about another party creating $company123
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
They will be given that option
Vincent03/29/2019
indefinately
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
the question is, is that option going to exist for forever, or maybe only 4 months
Vincent03/29/2019
then the worry still exists
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
I definitely vote for ! And $ to only be issued by the same people
Synicide03/29/2019
lets say they choose not to, can someone else create $company123? Or is that unqiue name shared?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I believe, ideally, a reissuance option would be available at anytime from !ownership
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Synicide That decision hasn't been made yet
theking03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I do agree that releasing both messaging and restricted assets at same time makes sense so there is only one hard fork. What is the current thinking on tentative timeline before they would both be on main net?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
im excited about this memo indication, its useful because it means a buyer of an asset sending rvn can indicate the 'return address' without the 'seller of the asset receiving ravencoin' having to transverse the full vin/vout chain to obtain the source address to dispatch asset to. Is there a timeline for this feature or any documentation on it @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs ?
Synicide03/29/2019
my 2 cents, they should be a shared pool of unique names. The door is opened for scammers galore if it isnt.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@theking A couple months atleast.
To make sure it is tested on testnet for long enough
theking03/29/2019
That makes perfect sense!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org It will be on mainnet as soon as it and restricted assets are tested. Is the goal
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
excellent, i look forward to it
Chill03/29/2019
Thank you for taking the time to bring up the ! and $ ownership issue. It's of extreme importance imo
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its gods work your doing there
bitnaive03/29/2019
yeah it seems like any modifiers to the original !NAME should belong to !NAME
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
I would like to voice concern over the idea of the "grace period".... The idea of a UNIQUE asset name is key to our success. Many of us jumped on names we wanted. This doesn't feel right to need to have yet another name floating around if it's not controlled by the !OWNERSHIP token
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Chill NP :p
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes please on only 1 hard fork
Chill03/29/2019
unique is unique. I have 510 of them!
Synicide03/29/2019
@DirkDiggler (RVN ded) grace peroid wont matter if the naming pool is shared for uniqueness
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, If I own GOOGLE!, and I don't want $GOOGLE, no one should be allowed to own it?
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
exactly
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Ideally, yes
bhorn03/29/2019
that feels right to me
Jeroz03/29/2019
yes
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Interesting
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
yes
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I'm good w that
Synicide03/29/2019
that makes the most sense to me. As said, opens the door to scammers if not
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Would add extra value to the ownership token as well
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
If more power is given to !ownership(changing type), more value is added to said asset, by way of design and ability
Vincent03/29/2019
and if you want to covert your assets to restricted yrs from now you will have a logistic nightmare if you have a bunch of owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I feel like, if we give people the option to register the restricted asset $ and they don't want it, that it is only fair that it is up for grabs
bitnaive03/29/2019
maybe no one else should be allowed to issue it but it can be transferred
Vincent03/29/2019
why?
Chill03/29/2019
I really don't think that's fair, to be honest
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Unique names are lost, in that case.
And in that way, !ownership loses value by not having the ability to change, if need be
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yeah I'd rather see the one name issued only forever
bitnaive03/29/2019
that way, if some one wants it. the can contact the owner for it.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I think restricted assets have a different use case than regular assets, and they can be frozen.
Vincent03/29/2019
i can buy ravenland and revent push from moving forward with is project (after grace)
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
seems like from a "code" perspective... the idea of 2 different (but similar names) would be a nightmare as well
Jeroz03/29/2019
Ideally give reissuable the extra option of making it restricted in my mind. I have mixed feelings about tokens traveling around that have the same asset name but are a different type.
Vincent03/29/2019
all his logos would have to change to his new name
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
They not have them remain one in the same? With the ability to change to restricted, should they have to. Though reissuance?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent That is why push would have plenty of time to pick up the ravenland restricted asset if he wanted it
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
One of our selling points over ETH is that ETH can issue a bunch of the same named assets as long as the contract address is different
Vincent03/29/2019
bbut who says what is enough time
i may need yrs
bhorn03/29/2019
the extra cost could be onerous as well
Chill03/29/2019
when the asset layer was launched, it was billed as being unique names. Be careful in changing this, please.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True, that amount of time isn't determined yet, if this is the route that is taken
bhorn03/29/2019
some have many many many assets
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
RVN, u issue that name once, it can never be duplicated
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
where as having just another sub asset type ($RESTRICTED) falls under the same hierarchy already defined
bhorn03/29/2019
and the RVN is not as cheaply replaced
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Not changing that, just talking about the next asset usecase and how it could be coded is all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
What kind of burn costs are we thinking w issuing restricted assets?
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what if push decides not to, then someone else registers it for malicious intent with the same name? Surely the person who built their company on chain doesnt want another token of their company name out there
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs you seem to be the only one fighting for the garce period
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Not sure yet, going to be more than regular issuanace is the thought.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Agreed
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Vincent Simply bringing it into conversation, no harm
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Not fighting, just keeping an open mind. I just code it, I am not the one making the decision.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey this is a bit of a random question but i get a lot of subassets send to me, what about wildcard sending via the wallet? like if i wanted to send RAVENLAND/* to an address
Vincent03/29/2019
true but just showing what the concesous is
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Create a request in the issues on github for extra functionality
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
will do mate
Synicide03/29/2019
seems if ! and $ arent shared unique, then companies will have to register both just to protect themselves
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
How about a unique asset w re-issuable IPFS?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We should be giving more power to !ownership by allowing it the ability to change to $ - Not giving less power to !ownership by duplicating unique names.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
GUNCERT provided a valid use case IMO for unique w re-issuable IPFS
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Sure I get that.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Agrees
If this is a possibility, to give the restricted assets to those who own the normal ones, it ought to be done
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Looking in on how to do that. The request is on github just don't have the time to implement it yet.
restricted assets, will have to be issued. and the corresponding amount of rvn will be burned for them
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
it'd be nice to see a ravencoin network swarm, us and mango farms are doing something with that so if anyone else wants to get involved, i think its a worthwhile thing to build the power of the ravencoin ipfs hash network to keep them hashes alive
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Yikes
Ah well
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
i wrote a programmatic script to scrape all the ipfs files, so i can probably runa simple enough shellscript to ipfs add pin everything from chain
Vincent03/29/2019
plus ravenland sent me a bunch of tokens...they will be worthless now!!! :sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:joy:
vincent
one day tho eh
Chill03/29/2019
my 250,000 RVN that were spent on RVN assets are feeling pretty weak at the moment
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent haha ravenland assets are still assets. They just don't have the ability to freeze then and stop you from trading them
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
you got to have one ring to rule them all... the Unique Ownership Token does that
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Chill That puts my 80 to shame!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Like I said, no decision has been made yet.
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs just playing with that one
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Yeah, I understand
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Changing gears alittle, Has any further thought been put into privacy?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
a tor network with proxychains could be effectively used to privatize a node
Jeroz03/29/2019
Seems that we need to continue discussions about the asset naming and make a write up about the proposals.
I have a different question:
About metadata and transactions. Tron mentioned that it will be possible to attach metadata to every transaction. It was unclear to me whether he meant every messaging transaction or every regular RVN/Asset transaction.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
ive been looking into this a little bit
Synicide03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org been wondering that too, and if restricted assets for KYC/AML NEED to be trackable
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Privacy isn't the main thing ravencoin wants right now. We need to be able to send and trade assets with visibility of amounts and the asset names. Once the main core components are finished, we can start thinking about integration privacy.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
as i understand it tor could as a protocol be built into ravencoin itself and distroed as a private tor based connector or hardened in such a way not to leak dns or requests that are not 'tor' proxied .. but you could do this already with some modifications to most linux systems (without the need for a ravencoin release)
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Understood
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Jeroz With messaging, all asset transactions can contain a metadata field yes.
Jeroz03/29/2019
RVN too?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Not RVN at this time, as that already exists with the OP_RETURN functionality of bitcoin
Jeroz03/29/2019
Yeah I was about to say
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I dream of one day Ravencoin giving users the ability to protect themselves from state level actors looking to oversee transactions on chain.
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
What's the subject?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org That would be amazing, however the dividends and voting require a public ledger in order to send
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Master] Roshii large one is if regular and restricted assets should share unique names, and/or if a grace peroid should be allowed for original owners to register restricted assets
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So we would need to figure out a way to have that info public and keep privacy
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Agree'd
Synicide03/29/2019
that was my worry, that it HAS to be public for a lot of uses. Privacy would have to be optional
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
ravencoin was built and is being built to support asset trading. Privacy is important but isn't currently the focus of the dev team.
Synicide03/29/2019
sounds good, focus on our roadmap and can research it more in the future
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Privacy is one of the very lasts subjects brought up in the whitepaper, after all :wink:
Vincent03/29/2019
to bring up an old topic; assets that haven't been reissued, there was talk about lowering the decimal places to reissue; i know not important but if it needed to be in a hard fork; should it be looked at the add to th next?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I have found a way to do this, however it requires the reissuer to own all assets
Synicide03/29/2019
how would you determine the correct values if lowering decimals? rounding?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Yes!
Vincent03/29/2019
correct
nice
Synicide03/29/2019
if they all own, I guess its a non-issue
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We aren't currently working on that, but I will try and get it into the hard fork release
Vincent03/29/2019
it would be a 1 time option, correct?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
In that event too, ability to reduce total supply as well if u still own every asset created would also be an excellent Option to have
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
Is Bruces worry about the security of Ravencoin a curent issue?
Chill03/29/2019
That seems to be the talk of the day
Zaab03/29/2019
Its just honesty
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
We know a 51% attack is cheap
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Depends on if it meets requirements.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
But reorg depth protection is good
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes Ravencoin currently doesn't have the network security that Bitcoin does, and water is wet
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
more full nodes is the answer to a stronger consensus and therefore a more securer network
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Hmmm checks out
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:ThinkBlack:
Vincent03/29/2019
right i guess my question is one time at most?
Synicide03/29/2019
It feels like more than just honesty. The last 4 post in a row from the Ravencoin twitter have some type of FUD based around it. Its all you see on the first page when looking at it. Some of that stuff needs to be kept to his personal account
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Probably not a development Question, what Bruce says on his own time. :persevere:
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@Synicide Bruce don't wanna spend a fortune on restricted assets :yum:
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
I don't like it myself either though @Synicide
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
yeah the ravencoin twitter has been a bit..... not good to put it easy
Vincent03/29/2019
this is bruces baby...and fud should be taken lightly imo
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Bruce can say what he wants :_)
Chill03/29/2019
well, it is the unofficial official Twitter page, so it kind of does matter
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We have taken measures to make sure ravencoin is safe and to stop 51% attacks
Synicide03/29/2019
I agree on his personal account. When people look up this project on twitter, they dont need a full page of fud
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its not a very development orientated debate tho in fairness
Vincent03/29/2019
no news will stop a well designed code
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Many new users are asking about IPFS integration. Is this still being researched?
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
I only asked as it appeared Bruce was saying there is a current security vulnerability..
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what can people do to help secure the ravencoin network into 2019 and in the future?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@When 350? (350club) Bruce doesn't code, he wouldn't know
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
sorry, got a late start on this meeting. is kyc stuff on the table for discussion today, or is that at a later meeting?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Looks at the PR's, make sure the code being added is well written and secure.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
sure thing
and run fullnodes right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Run nodes, and mine ravencoin!
haha
hashpower
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
that part
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Looks like its time.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Alright, I have to pick up my son. Thanks everyone!
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Thanks all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Thx!
Vincent03/29/2019
:sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
cheers again :thumbsup: keep up the good work :rvn_hop:
Chill03/29/2019
thanks for everyone's hard work
Synicide03/29/2019
great talks today, thanks guys
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Can have an admin shut it down and move this over to another channel until next time.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Thanks for voicing your concerns.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Thanks everyone
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
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GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
testnet voting on messaging bip?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
I like it.
@GhostDogsGhost You might be the main "answerer of questions" for this. Not sure where @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs is.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
anyone know if it's passed? if and when it'd be great to get some usage
Vincent03/29/2019
all good @traysi ★★★★★
Jeroz03/29/2019
Messaging is active on testnet now. The vote passed.
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
I'll try to clean up the permissions for this channel to make it simpler for future meetings.
Jeroz03/29/2019
There is no GUI yet to test it.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
sweet -- yeah just rpc for now
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
here
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
yay
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, for messaging. There is not GUI, we really want to test the protocol which you can use fully through the rpc console.
We understand that this limits the number of users that will want to do testing but we wanted to get it out there asap to find bugs
Jeroz03/29/2019
Is there list of commands / little guide on how to get started with them in the console?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, we wanted to let everyone know that we are going to try and get messaging protocol and restricted assets on mainnet at the same time. This means that the release for messaging might be delayed by a couple weeks. The devs are working really hard to make this happen and hope that the community is willing to wait a little longer for mainnet messaging.
There are commands like sendmessage listmessages and subscribe rpc calls yes
Jeroz03/29/2019
That would mean 1 hardfork instead of 2 right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Exactly @Jeroz
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
Hello!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, the Qt for messaging wont be released until after the hardfork, but the Qt for messaging and restricted assets would be in the same release.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Hello! Thanks for holding this meeting.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Will dividends also be included to that? @WhaleStreet (BW) (not sure if you are here)
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Dividends can be released at anytime it is completed as it doesn't require a hardfork
Jeroz03/29/2019
I meant the GUI update
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
For restricted assets, will owners of !uniquename have a grace period to claim $uniquename ?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I am not sure on the GUI for dividends.
We are still figuring out if we are going to allow for a grave period or not. I think we are leading to the answer of Yes there will be a grace period.
but we aren't sure yet
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
I've been studying and out of the loop of the RVN scene for a long time - is there any chance of someone updating me on what y'all talking about?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
We have also been going through and cleaning up issues in GitHub. Tried to clean up tags in there as well. We will probably start going though those on a weekly ->monthly basis to stay ahead of things.
Vincent03/29/2019
community seens to agree !ASSET has exclsuvie on $ASSET
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Silva -- that's open for discussion -- I think the general sentiment is that there should be some preference given to current asset owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne] We are talking about the roadmap and how the development of the new features are coming along.
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Lovely many thanks
Vincent03/29/2019
what is the justification on only a grace period?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Is it possible to reissue a !ownership as a $ownership?
Jeroz03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne]
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-tags-and-restricted-assets-84fe3070a226
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-kaaawww-2f72077aece
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I don't think is has exclusive rights. More like a first right of refusal for a couple months
Synicide03/29/2019
agree there should be some kind of grace period, or users that originally registered those assets will feel shafted
Vincent03/29/2019
but what is that justification?
if you are building Applein ur garage, you may need a few yrs to go public
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Issue being assets will cease to be unique with two different types about
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True.
We aren't sure on what approach will be taken yet
Synicide03/29/2019
should regular and restricted assets share the same 'uniqueness of naming'?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Please the community let us know what you think is fair.
This topic will 100% need to be discussed a lot
Vincent03/29/2019
when it was announced, there was a lot of discussion; most seemed to agree
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Jeroz Many thanks
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
If the consensus is that we shouldn't allow for ASSET! and $ASSET to be issued by different people then we will need to make sure that is the right approach. The code hasn't been written yet.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Some of this will depend on what we end up pricing the $ASSETS at (burn for issuance)..
Vincent03/29/2019
prcing shouldnt matter imo
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We need to determine how important unique asset names are, for varying types.
Vincent03/29/2019
should be the owner of the asset name
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Exactly
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey all, sorry im late :thumbsup:
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Howdy
Synicide03/29/2019
If someone registers !company123, and starts building a platform for themselves, seems they should be given an option to convert to $company123, and shouldnt have to worry about another party creating $company123
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
They will be given that option
Vincent03/29/2019
indefinately
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
the question is, is that option going to exist for forever, or maybe only 4 months
Vincent03/29/2019
then the worry still exists
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
I definitely vote for ! And $ to only be issued by the same people
Synicide03/29/2019
lets say they choose not to, can someone else create $company123? Or is that unqiue name shared?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I believe, ideally, a reissuance option would be available at anytime from !ownership
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Synicide That decision hasn't been made yet
theking03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I do agree that releasing both messaging and restricted assets at same time makes sense so there is only one hard fork. What is the current thinking on tentative timeline before they would both be on main net?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
im excited about this memo indication, its useful because it means a buyer of an asset sending rvn can indicate the 'return address' without the 'seller of the asset receiving ravencoin' having to transverse the full vin/vout chain to obtain the source address to dispatch asset to. Is there a timeline for this feature or any documentation on it @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs ?
Synicide03/29/2019
my 2 cents, they should be a shared pool of unique names. The door is opened for scammers galore if it isnt.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@theking A couple months atleast.
To make sure it is tested on testnet for long enough
theking03/29/2019
That makes perfect sense!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org It will be on mainnet as soon as it and restricted assets are tested. Is the goal
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
excellent, i look forward to it
Chill03/29/2019
Thank you for taking the time to bring up the ! and $ ownership issue. It's of extreme importance imo
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its gods work your doing there
bitnaive03/29/2019
yeah it seems like any modifiers to the original !NAME should belong to !NAME
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
I would like to voice concern over the idea of the "grace period".... The idea of a UNIQUE asset name is key to our success. Many of us jumped on names we wanted. This doesn't feel right to need to have yet another name floating around if it's not controlled by the !OWNERSHIP token
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Chill NP :p
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes please on only 1 hard fork
Chill03/29/2019
unique is unique. I have 510 of them!
Synicide03/29/2019
@DirkDiggler (RVN ded) grace peroid wont matter if the naming pool is shared for uniqueness
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, If I own GOOGLE!, and I don't want $GOOGLE, no one should be allowed to own it?
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
exactly
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Ideally, yes
bhorn03/29/2019
that feels right to me
Jeroz03/29/2019
yes
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Interesting
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
yes
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I'm good w that
Synicide03/29/2019
that makes the most sense to me. As said, opens the door to scammers if not
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Would add extra value to the ownership token as well
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
If more power is given to !ownership(changing type), more value is added to said asset, by way of design and ability
Vincent03/29/2019
and if you want to covert your assets to restricted yrs from now you will have a logistic nightmare if you have a bunch of owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I feel like, if we give people the option to register the restricted asset $ and they don't want it, that it is only fair that it is up for grabs
bitnaive03/29/2019
maybe no one else should be allowed to issue it but it can be transferred
Vincent03/29/2019
why?
Chill03/29/2019
I really don't think that's fair, to be honest
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Unique names are lost, in that case.
And in that way, !ownership loses value by not having the ability to change, if need be
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yeah I'd rather see the one name issued only forever
bitnaive03/29/2019
that way, if some one wants it. the can contact the owner for it.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I think restricted assets have a different use case than regular assets, and they can be frozen.
Vincent03/29/2019
i can buy ravenland and revent push from moving forward with is project (after grace)
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
seems like from a "code" perspective... the idea of 2 different (but similar names) would be a nightmare as well
Jeroz03/29/2019
Ideally give reissuable the extra option of making it restricted in my mind. I have mixed feelings about tokens traveling around that have the same asset name but are a different type.
Vincent03/29/2019
all his logos would have to change to his new name
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
They not have them remain one in the same? With the ability to change to restricted, should they have to. Though reissuance?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent That is why push would have plenty of time to pick up the ravenland restricted asset if he wanted it
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
One of our selling points over ETH is that ETH can issue a bunch of the same named assets as long as the contract address is different
Vincent03/29/2019
bbut who says what is enough time
i may need yrs
bhorn03/29/2019
the extra cost could be onerous as well
Chill03/29/2019
when the asset layer was launched, it was billed as being unique names. Be careful in changing this, please.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True, that amount of time isn't determined yet, if this is the route that is taken
bhorn03/29/2019
some have many many many assets
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
RVN, u issue that name once, it can never be duplicated
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
where as having just another sub asset type ($RESTRICTED) falls under the same hierarchy already defined
bhorn03/29/2019
and the RVN is not as cheaply replaced
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Not changing that, just talking about the next asset usecase and how it could be coded is all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
What kind of burn costs are we thinking w issuing restricted assets?
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what if push decides not to, then someone else registers it for malicious intent with the same name? Surely the person who built their company on chain doesnt want another token of their company name out there
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs you seem to be the only one fighting for the garce period
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Not sure yet, going to be more than regular issuanace is the thought.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Agreed
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Vincent Simply bringing it into conversation, no harm
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Not fighting, just keeping an open mind. I just code it, I am not the one making the decision.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey this is a bit of a random question but i get a lot of subassets send to me, what about wildcard sending via the wallet? like if i wanted to send RAVENLAND/* to an address
Vincent03/29/2019
true but just showing what the concesous is
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Create a request in the issues on github for extra functionality
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
will do mate
Synicide03/29/2019
seems if ! and $ arent shared unique, then companies will have to register both just to protect themselves
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
How about a unique asset w re-issuable IPFS?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We should be giving more power to !ownership by allowing it the ability to change to $ - Not giving less power to !ownership by duplicating unique names.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
GUNCERT provided a valid use case IMO for unique w re-issuable IPFS
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Sure I get that.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Agrees
If this is a possibility, to give the restricted assets to those who own the normal ones, it ought to be done
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Looking in on how to do that. The request is on github just don't have the time to implement it yet.
restricted assets, will have to be issued. and the corresponding amount of rvn will be burned for them
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
it'd be nice to see a ravencoin network swarm, us and mango farms are doing something with that so if anyone else wants to get involved, i think its a worthwhile thing to build the power of the ravencoin ipfs hash network to keep them hashes alive
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Yikes
Ah well
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
i wrote a programmatic script to scrape all the ipfs files, so i can probably runa simple enough shellscript to ipfs add pin everything from chain
Vincent03/29/2019
plus ravenland sent me a bunch of tokens...they will be worthless now!!! :sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:joy:
vincent
one day tho eh
Chill03/29/2019
my 250,000 RVN that were spent on RVN assets are feeling pretty weak at the moment
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent haha ravenland assets are still assets. They just don't have the ability to freeze then and stop you from trading them
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
you got to have one ring to rule them all... the Unique Ownership Token does that
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Chill That puts my 80 to shame!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Like I said, no decision has been made yet.
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs just playing with that one
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Yeah, I understand
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Changing gears alittle, Has any further thought been put into privacy?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
a tor network with proxychains could be effectively used to privatize a node
Jeroz03/29/2019
Seems that we need to continue discussions about the asset naming and make a write up about the proposals.
I have a different question:
About metadata and transactions. Tron mentioned that it will be possible to attach metadata to every transaction. It was unclear to me whether he meant every messaging transaction or every regular RVN/Asset transaction.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
ive been looking into this a little bit
Synicide03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org been wondering that too, and if restricted assets for KYC/AML NEED to be trackable
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Privacy isn't the main thing ravencoin wants right now. We need to be able to send and trade assets with visibility of amounts and the asset names. Once the main core components are finished, we can start thinking about integration privacy.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
as i understand it tor could as a protocol be built into ravencoin itself and distroed as a private tor based connector or hardened in such a way not to leak dns or requests that are not 'tor' proxied .. but you could do this already with some modifications to most linux systems (without the need for a ravencoin release)
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Understood
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Jeroz With messaging, all asset transactions can contain a metadata field yes.
Jeroz03/29/2019
RVN too?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Not RVN at this time, as that already exists with the OP_RETURN functionality of bitcoin
Jeroz03/29/2019
Yeah I was about to say
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I dream of one day Ravencoin giving users the ability to protect themselves from state level actors looking to oversee transactions on chain.
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
What's the subject?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org That would be amazing, however the dividends and voting require a public ledger in order to send
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Master] Roshii large one is if regular and restricted assets should share unique names, and/or if a grace peroid should be allowed for original owners to register restricted assets
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So we would need to figure out a way to have that info public and keep privacy
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Agree'd
Synicide03/29/2019
that was my worry, that it HAS to be public for a lot of uses. Privacy would have to be optional
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
ravencoin was built and is being built to support asset trading. Privacy is important but isn't currently the focus of the dev team.
Synicide03/29/2019
sounds good, focus on our roadmap and can research it more in the future
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Privacy is one of the very lasts subjects brought up in the whitepaper, after all :wink:
Vincent03/29/2019
to bring up an old topic; assets that haven't been reissued, there was talk about lowering the decimal places to reissue; i know not important but if it needed to be in a hard fork; should it be looked at the add to th next?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I have found a way to do this, however it requires the reissuer to own all assets
Synicide03/29/2019
how would you determine the correct values if lowering decimals? rounding?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Yes!
Vincent03/29/2019
correct
nice
Synicide03/29/2019
if they all own, I guess its a non-issue
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We aren't currently working on that, but I will try and get it into the hard fork release
Vincent03/29/2019
it would be a 1 time option, correct?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
In that event too, ability to reduce total supply as well if u still own every asset created would also be an excellent Option to have
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
Is Bruces worry about the security of Ravencoin a curent issue?
Chill03/29/2019
That seems to be the talk of the day
Zaab03/29/2019
Its just honesty
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
We know a 51% attack is cheap
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Depends on if it meets requirements.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
But reorg depth protection is good
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes Ravencoin currently doesn't have the network security that Bitcoin does, and water is wet
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
more full nodes is the answer to a stronger consensus and therefore a more securer network
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Hmmm checks out
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:ThinkBlack:
Vincent03/29/2019
right i guess my question is one time at most?
Synicide03/29/2019
It feels like more than just honesty. The last 4 post in a row from the Ravencoin twitter have some type of FUD based around it. Its all you see on the first page when looking at it. Some of that stuff needs to be kept to his personal account
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Probably not a development Question, what Bruce says on his own time. :persevere:
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@Synicide Bruce don't wanna spend a fortune on restricted assets :yum:
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
I don't like it myself either though @Synicide
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
yeah the ravencoin twitter has been a bit..... not good to put it easy
Vincent03/29/2019
this is bruces baby...and fud should be taken lightly imo
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Bruce can say what he wants :_)
Chill03/29/2019
well, it is the unofficial official Twitter page, so it kind of does matter
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We have taken measures to make sure ravencoin is safe and to stop 51% attacks
Synicide03/29/2019
I agree on his personal account. When people look up this project on twitter, they dont need a full page of fud
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its not a very development orientated debate tho in fairness
Vincent03/29/2019
no news will stop a well designed code
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Many new users are asking about IPFS integration. Is this still being researched?
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
I only asked as it appeared Bruce was saying there is a current security vulnerability..
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what can people do to help secure the ravencoin network into 2019 and in the future?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@When 350? (350club) Bruce doesn't code, he wouldn't know
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
sorry, got a late start on this meeting. is kyc stuff on the table for discussion today, or is that at a later meeting?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Looks at the PR's, make sure the code being added is well written and secure.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
sure thing
and run fullnodes right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Run nodes, and mine ravencoin!
haha
hashpower
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
that part
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Looks like its time.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Alright, I have to pick up my son. Thanks everyone!
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Thanks all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Thx!
Vincent03/29/2019
:sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
cheers again :thumbsup: keep up the good work :rvn_hop:
Chill03/29/2019
thanks for everyone's hard work
Synicide03/29/2019
great talks today, thanks guys
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Can have an admin shut it down and move this over to another channel until next time.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Thanks for voicing your concerns.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Thanks everyone
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
@traysi ★★★★★ can you lock it back?
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
The channel is locked now.
