Got a whatsapp message from a scammer and decided to string them a long for a little. I did go on their website and made an account. However I did use a VPN and a computer/internet connection that is not connected to me. I am sure I don't really need to say this in this sub but. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
2023-09-09, 17:02 - Messages and calls are end-to-end encrypted. No one outside of this chat, not even WhatsApp, can read or listen to them. Tap to learn more.
2023-09-09, 17:02 - SCAMMER: 😄
2023-09-09, 17:03 - SCAMMER: Hello! I'm Sofia. I got your number from Bethany Mitchell. I heard you're interested in a job opportunity I'm doing
2023-09-09, 17:06 - Me: Well I need more info before I decide if I am interested.
2023-09-09, 17:06 - SCAMMER: I will send you the job description. you can read first
2023-09-09, 17:07 - Me: What are the exact job duties? Is the salary commission based? What is the average and median salary?
2023-09-09, 17:09 - SCAMMER: Job Responsibilities: Application Optimizer
Commission: It is determined based on the App you optimize
Fixed salary: 800 for 5 days, 1,500 for 15 days, 3,800 for 30 days, a total of 6,100 per month
2023-09-09, 17:09 - SCAMMER: So our remuneration is commission + salary, two sources of funds, do you understand?
2023-09-09, 17:10 - SCAMMER: And only need to work 1-2 hours a day
2023-09-09, 17:11 - Me: So what are the job duties? I'm good with computers, but I'm far from a computer science expert. What do you mean by application optimizer? Is it like a beta tester?
2023-09-09, 17:12 - Me: Like testing apps and sharing feedback?
2023-09-09, 17:12 - SCAMMER: Let me now introduce you to the work process
2023-09-09, 17:13 - SCAMMER: This is a simple job, you can understand it as an "application optimizer", we mainly work for ThinkData. The nature of this job is freelance (non-technical, no experience required). The only requirement for you to do this job is to have a device with Internet access (mobile phone or computer)
2023-09-09, 17:13 - SCAMMER: As for working time and location, it is your own time and your own goals, which means you can work remotely without any restrictions. The company's working hours are from 11:00 am to 10:59 pm. We can do it anytime in between. It only takes about 1-2 hours at most.
2023-09-09, 17:13 - SCAMMER: Are you willing to accept the nature and hours of work? I will continue to recommend you for this job if you want
2023-09-09, 17:15 - Me: I think I might be interested. I already work 12 hour days, but 6 days on and 6 days off. Will I be required to work every day of the month? Or can I choose the days I work? And I am still unsure what application optimizer means.
2023-09-09, 17:16 - SCAMMER: You can choose the working date, and then I will continue to explain the work content to you.
2023-09-09, 17:16 - SCAMMER: This is an *app marketing company* (ThinkData Works) and our role in this job is to work as *data providing users*.
2023-09-09, 17:16 - SCAMMER: Our job is to help the apps companies we work with optimize their apps. Simply put, we upload data and traffic as users on the workbench provided by the company.
2023-09-09, 17:16 - SCAMMER: The operation method is also very simple, just "click" to optimize the application, because the platform has an automatic conversion system, each click will automatically upload AI data for optimization, thereby improving the ranking and exposure of the application, increasing the download volume and transactions of the application Quantity and real reviews. Therefore, we need to register as a user to start, and there are training courses to understand its details.
2023-09-09, 17:16 - SCAMMER: Is there anything you don’t know about what this job is about?
2023-09-09, 17:19 - Me: I think I understand. I'd like to go forward
2023-09-09, 17:20 - SCAMMER: Our salary is based on basic salary + commission, and we can get paid every day.
2023-09-09, 17:20 - SCAMMER: Our gross income is based on base salary and commission. However, this is not a fixed ratio. Because it depends the more you do, the more you earn. Commission is our main income, and the basic salary depends on whether you can upload data every day, if you can, you will get the basic salary. For example, if you upload data for 5 consecutive days, you will get an extra $800 in addition to the commission.
2023-09-09, 17:20 - SCAMMER: Complete 2 sets of tasks every day for 5 consecutive days, get 800 USDT salary, complete 2 sets of tasks every day for 15 consecutive days, get 1500 USDT salary, complete 2 sets of tasks every day for 30 consecutive days, get 3800 USDT salary, so the monthly salary is 6100 USDT, this is a fixed salary.
2023-09-09, 17:20 - SCAMMER: Is there anything else you don't understand about the compensation package for this job?
2023-09-09, 17:21 - Me: That makes sense to me.
2023-09-09, 17:22 - SCAMMER: Do you understand what I said above?
2023-09-09, 17:22 - SCAMMER: Or I can explain to you the origin of the job in more detail.
2023-09-09, 17:22 - Me: Are there any benefits? Or is this a contract arrangement?
2023-09-09, 17:22 - SCAMMER: Since our company works with many merchants around the world, merchants entrust our platform to help job seekers optimize their applications. Do you know what that means?
2023-09-09, 17:23 - SCAMMER: It's just that merchants' APPs haven't become popular yet, and they need click-through rates and popular searches to let more people know about their APPs, so we need to pretend to be real users to optimize their APPs, so that we can get commissions and a fixed salary.
2023-09-09, 17:23 - SCAMMER: The company provides us with a platform that links global APPs. We only need to register an account on the platform, and then help merchants click and optimize the APP that needs to be optimized.
2023-09-09, 17:24 - SCAMMER: We are a third party and we only need to work 1-2 hours a day. We are part-time and do not need a contract.
2023-09-09, 17:26 - Me: So I'm pretty sure I would be generating clicks and downloads to bring apps to the front page of whatever place their on.
2023-09-09, 17:26 - Me: Or "boost" them.
2023-09-09, 17:26 - Me: But it sounds easy. I'm interested.
2023-09-09, 17:27 - SCAMMER: The company provides us with an App that links the world. The operation method is also very simple. You only need to "click" to optimize the application. Because the platform has an automatic conversion system, each click will automatically upload AI data for optimization, thereby improving the ranking and ranking of the application. Exposure, increasing app downloads, transactions, and real reviews.
2023-09-09, 17:27 - SCAMMER: If you are interested, I will take you to training
2023-09-09, 17:28 - Me: Are there any obligations on my side? If I dont like it, can I quit at any time without penalty?
2023-09-09, 17:29 - SCAMMER: You are under no obligation and can opt out at any time if you don't like it
2023-09-09, 17:29 - Me: Okay. Let's go to training.
2023-09-09, 17:30 - SCAMMER: Instead, the company will give you some $50-200 CAD commission after your successful training.
2023-09-09, 17:30 - SCAMMER: This is a reward given by the company to new employees😊
2023-09-09, 17:30 - SCAMMER: I'm going to send you the workbench of (ThinkData), here's the link, you can check it out. But as a user of the data provider, you need to sign up for a user account with a phone number, okay? Signing up is free, but it won't invade your privacy
2023-09-09, 17:31 - SCAMMER: Workbench link: SCAMMERS WEBSITE
2023-09-09, 17:31 - SCAMMER: Recommendation code: WQVM5F
2023-09-09, 17:31 - Me: Well how much?
2023-09-09, 17:31 - SCAMMER: Determined based on the progress of training
2023-09-09, 17:31 - Me: Ok
2023-09-09, 17:32 - SCAMMER: You go ahead and register. If there is anything you don’t understand during the registration process, you can always ask me.
2023-09-09, 17:32 - SCAMMER: Please tell me after the registration is complete, and then send me your referral code, I will use your referral code to register a training account for you, so that after you complete the training, you can get a 20% commission from my training account, so you can also May learn more about how our day-to-day work works and how we make money
2023-09-09, 17:43 - SCAMMER: This message was deleted
2023-09-09, 17:43 - SCAMMER: are you registered
2023-09-09, 17:48 - Me: Just working on it now\
2023-09-09, 17:48 - SCAMMER: If there is anything you don’t understand, you can send me a screenshot and I will guide you to the right choice.
2023-09-09, 18:04 - Me: k I'm signed in
2023-09-09, 18:04 - SCAMMER: Send me your referral code
2023-09-09, 18:05 - Me: Where do I find that
2023-09-09, 18:05 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:05 - SCAMMER: Click here to see
2023-09-09, 18:05 - Me: You didn't tell me you pay in tether
2023-09-09, 18:06 - SCAMMER: I told you right here
2023-09-09, 18:06 - Me: you did
2023-09-09, 18:06 - Me: my bad
2023-09-09, 18:06 - SCAMMER: USDT/ETH/Bitcoin
2023-09-09, 18:06 - Me: It didn't register 😅
2023-09-09, 18:06 - SCAMMER: All three are possible
2023-09-09, 18:06 - Me: WJZXNM
2023-09-09, 18:07 - SCAMMER: Please give me some time. I will use your referral code to register a training account. After the training is completed, the commission will be automatically sent to your account.
2023-09-09, 18:07 - Me: ok
2023-09-09, 18:09 - SCAMMER: Account: bee974
Password:aa974974
2023-09-09, 18:09 - SCAMMER: This is the training account I registered with your referral code, now log out of your personal account, log in to this training account, tell me when you are done, I will guide you step by step
2023-09-09, 18:12 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:12 - SCAMMER: KeyboardTab
2023-09-09, 18:13 - SCAMMER: Did you log in using a computer?
2023-09-09, 18:13 - Me: If I wasn't sketched out before, this made it even worse
2023-09-09, 18:14 - Me: yes
2023-09-09, 18:14 - SCAMMER: It will be more convenient to use mobile phone
2023-09-09, 18:14 - Me: k I'm logged into the training
2023-09-09, 18:14 - SCAMMER: OK
2023-09-09, 18:14 - SCAMMER: Now please check the balance of the account and take a screenshot for me
2023-09-09, 18:14 - SCAMMER: Is the balance of 1615 correct?
2023-09-09, 18:15 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:15 - SCAMMER: OK, the balance is correct. Each newly registered account comes with a 10usdt bonus. Then I recharged 1500usdt to my account, and the platform rewarded my account with 105usdt.
2023-09-09, 18:15 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:16 - SCAMMER: Let's start the training session, we need to complete 40 tasks, see the number 0/40, until 40/40 to complete this training session, now go to start optimization.
2023-09-09, 18:16 - Me: k
2023-09-09, 18:16 - SCAMMER: Please let me know if you encounter any problems when optimizing tasks, this platform has two types of tasks, one is common tasks, the other is combined tasks, the commission for normal tasks is 0.5 times, and the commission for combined tasks is 1.5 times
2023-09-09, 18:17 - Me: Is this just crypto mining?
2023-09-09, 18:17 - SCAMMER: No
2023-09-09, 18:18 - SCAMMER: It's a job to optimize your app
2023-09-09, 18:18 - Me: wtf does that mean?
2023-09-09, 18:19 - SCAMMER: This is an optimization app
2023-09-09, 18:19 - SCAMMER: Since our company works with many merchants around the world, merchants entrust our platform to help job seekers optimize their applications. Do you know what that means?
2023-09-09, 18:19 - SCAMMER: It's just that merchants' APPs haven't become popular yet, and they need click-through rates and popular searches to let more people know about their APPs, so we need to pretend to be real users to optimize their APPs, so that we can get commissions and a fixed salary.
2023-09-09, 18:19 - SCAMMER: The company provides us with a platform that links global APPs. We only need to register an account on the platform, and then help merchants click and optimize the APP that needs to be optimized.
2023-09-09, 18:19 - SCAMMER: do you understand
2023-09-09, 18:19 - Me: not anymore
2023-09-09, 18:19 - Me: I thought I did
2023-09-09, 18:20 - Me: So why am I doing this on another account that's not mine
2023-09-09, 18:21 - SCAMMER: Because this is a training account, I am responsible for teaching you and training you to understand the entire workflow.
2023-09-09, 18:22 - Me: k
2023-09-09, 18:22 - Me: I've clicked starting now
2023-09-09, 18:22 - Me: what next
2023-09-09, 18:23 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:23 - SCAMMER: keep clicking
2023-09-09, 18:23 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:23 - SCAMMER: Now is (0/40) click until (40/40)
2023-09-09, 18:23 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:24 - SCAMMER: Click here. There is an unfinished order. Click to complete it.
2023-09-09, 18:24 - Me: ok
2023-09-09, 18:24 - Me: I got it
2023-09-09, 18:29 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:29 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:29 - Me: Thanks bro
2023-09-09, 18:31 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:31 - SCAMMER: Wow
2023-09-09, 18:31 - SCAMMER: You had good beginner luck, thank you, you got the combo pack, yes!
2023-09-09, 18:31 - SCAMMER: We will get a higher commission! The commission for normal tasks is 0.5%, and the commission for combined tasks is three times that of 1.5%.
2023-09-09, 18:31 - SCAMMER: Let me explain the system to you, okay?
2023-09-09, 18:32 - Me: Ya sure
2023-09-09, 18:32 - SCAMMER: There are 2 types of tasks on this platform.
- Common tasks
- Combined package
2023-09-09, 18:32 - SCAMMER: This is one of the tasks in the combination package, it is like a package, consisting of 1-3 common tasks, randomly given by the system
2023-09-09, 18:32 - SCAMMER: When we get a normal order, our funds will be returned to us immediately, let us roll to the next task, but the combo task is a package composed of normal tasks, we must complete the combo task to get a refund, continue on a task.
2023-09-09, 18:32 - SCAMMER: That's why my training account is now negative because my funds are in the previous mission of the package.
2023-09-09, 18:32 - SCAMMER: Can you understand the combination task when I explain it this way? If you don't understand, you can tell me, if you understand, I will teach you how to deal with the combination task
2023-09-09, 18:33 - Me: I have no idea what most of that means?
2023-09-09, 18:33 - Me: How do I continue
2023-09-09, 18:33 - SCAMMER: I will make a deposit as this is my training account. All we have to do is add the negative amount as a deposit.
2023-09-09, 18:34 - SCAMMER: You need to help me contact the customer service staff and ask them to provide me with detailed information, and then I will make a deposit.
2023-09-09, 18:34 - Me: wait. So if this happens on my account I would have to pay $1200 to continue?
2023-09-09, 18:34 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:34 - SCAMMER: It's me who needs to pay, not you
2023-09-09, 18:35 - SCAMMER: Click here to contact customer service
2023-09-09, 18:35 - Me: ok sure, but When I am done the training
2023-09-09, 18:35 - SCAMMER: This is my training account, we are just training
2023-09-09, 18:35 - Me: I wasn't sure how this scam made any money for you, but I think I've got it figured out
2023-09-09, 18:36 - SCAMMER: what
2023-09-09, 18:36 - SCAMMER: This is not a scam, the combination of tasks means you are lucky
2023-09-09, 18:36 - SCAMMER: Since this is a training account, anything is possible
2023-09-09, 18:36 - Me: Well you just said that if you get a combination task you have to pay to complete iot
2023-09-09, 18:37 - SCAMMER: After the payment is completed, we can withdraw all the amount to our wallet after completing task 40/40
2023-09-09, 18:37 - SCAMMER: This is a training account, now I have to pay, not you
2023-09-09, 18:37 - SCAMMER: I have been working for 8 months and I know this kind of thing very well
2023-09-09, 18:38 - Me: I'm sure that's exactly what will happen 🙄
2023-09-09, 18:38 - SCAMMER: No, it can't happen to you
2023-09-09, 18:39 - SCAMMER: Unless you are very lucky, this is not what you understand
2023-09-09, 18:39 - Me: Ya. If I get lucky I have to pay $1200
2023-09-09, 18:39 - SCAMMER: We are in a training account now and it is me who needs to pay, not you.
2023-09-09, 18:39 - SCAMMER: Do you know what I mean
2023-09-09, 18:40 - Me: You think I just fell off the turnip truck or what?
2023-09-09, 18:40 - Me: I know I don't need to pay now
2023-09-09, 18:41 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:41 - Me: This thing is hot garbage
2023-09-09, 18:41 - SCAMMER: This is customer service
2023-09-09, 18:45 - Me: What is
2023-09-09, 18:46 - SCAMMER: Don't rush to make sure this is a scam.
2023-09-09, 18:46 - Me: ??
2023-09-09, 18:46 - SCAMMER: You can go through this process first and you will understand everything after the training is completed
2023-09-09, 18:46 - SCAMMER: understand?
2023-09-09, 18:46 - Me: Ya
2023-09-09, 18:47 - Me: So who do I talki to Ligne 1 2 or 3? 😅
2023-09-09, 18:47 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:47 - SCAMMER: Whatever you want, you can choose from 123
2023-09-09, 18:48 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:48 - Me: k I clicked on ligne 1
2023-09-09, 18:48 - SCAMMER: OK
2023-09-09, 18:48 - SCAMMER: Tell the customer service staff that you want to recharge your bee974 account, pay with TRC-20, and then forward it to me after getting the details, and I will make the deposit.
2023-09-09, 18:52 - Me: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 18:52 - Me: ngl this isn't helping your credibility
2023-09-09, 18:52 - SCAMMER: You haven’t even downloaded WhatsApp
2023-09-09, 18:53 - Me: I'm talking to you on WhatsApp now
2023-09-09, 18:53 - Me: goober
2023-09-09, 18:55 - SCAMMER: customer service.vcf (file attached)
2023-09-09, 18:55 - SCAMMER: You contact customer service directly
2023-09-09, 18:59 - Me: You need the crypto wallet address?
2023-09-09, 18:59 - SCAMMER: Need it
2023-09-09, 18:59 - SCAMMER: Otherwise, how can I recharge the training account?
2023-09-09, 18:59 - Me: TVTUckJh8v8YwKnNPPPHM6LCcourVgV5Ql
2023-09-09, 19:00 - SCAMMER: OK
2023-09-09, 19:01 - SCAMMER: Please give me some time, I will make the deposit now
2023-09-09, 19:02 - SCAMMER: My account has a negative balance of 1202.28. I only need to deposit 1160USDT to complete the negative balance, because recharging 1160USDT can get a 5% deposit bonus.
2023-09-09, 19:03 - SCAMMER: <Media omitted>
2023-09-09, 19:03 - SCAMMER: Done, I deposited money, please send this screenshot transfer receipt to customer service, please let me know when customer service updates my account.
2023-09-09, 19:06 - SCAMMER: are you still there
2023-09-09, 19:07 - Me: Was pooping
2023-09-09, 19:08 - Me: So are you the customer service rep?
2023-09-09, 19:08 - Me: That I am talking to on the other accound?
2023-09-09, 19:08 - Me: account*
2023-09-09, 19:09 - Me: Cause I changed something in the wallet address I gave you and miraculously you have the correct address on the transaction receipt.
2023-09-09, 19:09 - Me: You're not doing a good job convincing me that this isn't a scam
2023-09-09, 19:12 - SCAMMER: Do you think I won’t ask customer service for confirmation?
2023-09-09, 19:12 - SCAMMER: Give me your own address later and I'll forward it to you. What if you run away?
2023-09-09, 19:13 - SCAMMER: I have the contact information of customer service. I will contact customer service to confirm the address.
2023-09-09, 19:13 - Me: Why would you need to talk to them at all
2023-09-09, 19:13 - SCAMMER: Just testing you
2023-09-09, 19:13 - SCAMMER: Now I declare that you have lost a very well-paying job
2023-09-09, 19:14 - SCAMMER: Wish you all the best, bye
2023-09-09, 19:14 - Me: You do?
2023-09-09, 19:14 - Me: lol
2023-09-09, 19:14 - Me: I have a well paying job
2023-09-09, 19:14 - Me: I was 99% sure this was a scam from the get go
2023-09-09, 19:15 - SCAMMER: All you have is the shaqima made by your mother
2023-09-09, 19:15 - Me: Why don't you get a real job instead of trying to steal people's hard earned money
2023-09-09, 19:15 - Me: I don't speak french
2023-09-09, 19:15 - SCAMMER: Log out of my training account now
2023-09-09, 19:16 - SCAMMER: Exit now
2023-09-09, 19:16 - Me: What if I don't
2023-09-09, 19:16 - SCAMMER: I now ask you to quit immediately
2023-09-09, 19:16 - Me: wait
2023-09-09, 19:16 - Me: can I withdraw the tether
2023-09-09, 19:16 - Me: ah damn. Looks like I need a pin
2023-09-09, 19:16 - Me: What's the pin?
2023-09-09, 19:17 - SCAMMER: Damn fat pig, log out of my training account immediately and get out of here
2023-09-09, 19:17 - Me: awe. Don't be that way
2023-09-09, 19:18 - Me: We've had an alright time haven't we?
2023-09-09, 19:19 - Me: So you are chinese
2023-09-09, 19:20 - SCAMMER: I'm your mother's dream girl
2023-09-09, 19:20 - Me: I had to look that word up. I thought it was a slurr, but it seems to be some chinese bootleg rice crispy treat
2023-09-09, 19:20 - SCAMMER: My name is Sofia, and I declare on behalf of Canada that you have turned into a fat pig.
2023-09-09, 19:21 - Me: I'd be genuinely surprised if you are actually a woman
2023-09-09, 19:21 - SCAMMER: And your mother is feeding you every day, trying to feed you into a fat pig raised by the Jews.
2023-09-09, 19:21 - Me: I bet you're in some office crammed cheek to cheek with 100 other dirtbags on WhatsApp trying to steal money from people
2023-09-09, 19:22 - Me: Well... I agree that I am a little overweight, but I haven't eaten my mothers cooking in a while
2023-09-09, 19:23 - Me: Does your owner let you go for bathroom breaks? Or do you need to wear a diaper?
2023-09-09, 19:26 - Me: Wait
2023-09-09, 19:27 - Me: idk if you are in Canada or China or what. But I've always wanted to try this
2023-09-09, 19:28 - Me: The Tiananmen Square protests, known in China as the June Fourth Incident[1][2][a] were student-led demonstrations held in Tiananmen Square, Beijing, China, lasting from 15 April to 4 June 1989. On the night of 3 June, after weeks of attempts to resolve the conflict peacefully, including negotiations from both sides, the Chinese government declared martial law, and deployed troops to occupy the square in what is often referred to as the Tiananmen Square massacre. The events are sometimes called the '89 Democracy Movement,[b] the Tiananmen Square Incident,[c] or the Tiananmen uprising.[3][4]
The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang that is often characterized as genocide. Beginning in 2014, the Chinese government, under the administration of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) General Secretary Xi Jinping, incarcerated more than an estimated one million Turkic Muslims without any legal process in internment camps.[2][3][4][5] Operations from 2016 to 2021 were led by Xinjiang CCP Secretary Chen Quanguo, who dramatically increased the scale and scope of the camps.[6] It is the largest-scale detention of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II.[7][8] Experts estimate that, since 2017, some sixteen thousand mosques have been razed or damaged,[6] and hundreds of thousands of children have been forcibly separated from their parents and sent to boarding schools.[9][10]
