Wednesday, May 8, 2019

Doge Token : AKA the post Sporklin did not want to make.

At times Twitter is not the platform that allows the proper conveyance of engagement, 280 characters is generally not enough; especially for myself. Given the topic here I ask that you allow me the grace of a proper platform in order to do this in a manner that leaves little question to intention.

I want to preface this given rarely do I have to do these in public. Myself, the Dogecoin Core Developers believe that the space is wonderful, diverse, creative, and engaging across the several thousands of assets that exist. It is neither my intention nor our intention to prohibit, attack, dissuade or otherwise disincline something from existing in the space. However every now and again projects do pop up that seem to want their "upstart" in the space to begin with attacking Dogecoin. As a community driven asset with deeply communal ties to the entire space there are moments where even we pause and ask for clarity. This can help to gauge intentions, cause and more than once has led to showing someone as a "bad actor" in the space. We have spent over half a decade working with the Doge/Dogecoin branding, there are many assets with the name which we believe only helps to engage further people into cryptocurrency.

So Doge Token.

Technology

DogeCoin is technologically behind

However, it’s core technology has not been upgraded much, and it has not been updated in well over a year latest releases from 2015.

I understand Github can be hard to manage, and understand. What I fail to understand is how you missed that we have had 7 releases since 2015. Dogecoin Releases. Further for the coming 1.14 release there was active and ongoing communal interaction and input along the way as Dogecoin is a social consensus asset not just network/chain consensus based. Path to 1.14 Which for noting puts our public start into 1.14 barely a year beyond the 1.10 DogeParty release. (Which happened in 2016, where you state nothing has been done since 2015.)

Further as is shown there in the above posting 1.16-dev shows work. 1.17-dev Shows work as of 11 days ago even as we are waiting on final push for 1.14. This all counters your claim that there has been no releases, that nothing has been upgraded much.

If you would care to explain why your white paper states otherwise I would be willing to listen, especially given as it is rather public what we are doing, when we are doing it, and further more who is doing what. We are community based, and there are comments on both @dogecoin along with @dogecoin_devs both have been active in keeping communities updated. I sourced most of the postings for the large post from reddit, and that is only half of the updates. We have also spent time among the telegram communities, slack, discord, Steam communities, IRC communities across a span of multiple languages no less interacting, updating, and engaging with users.

Rolling back into the initial statement, "Dogecoin is technologically behind". I am curious where you see this, personally. This was gone into recently, by someone else who screamed the same things. Reality of Dogecoin Perhaps you missed this as well?

Doge Token lives on the Stellar blockchain

Stellar is the one of the fastest growing and largest blockchain platforms out there.

Stellar nodes/validators 43 have uptime in the past 24 hours.

Dogecoin Nodes This private node saw 420 other ones in 24 hours. (There are other versions listed there, they are forked coins that did not change the basis so appear on our node relay maps.) Nevermind what our public nodes see daily.

Do not take this as a hit to Stellar, it has been around since July 2014. It is old in the space which is amazing it has lasted given how many projects die. However stating that it is one of the fastest growing and largest blockchains, is a bit of a stretch. It is a rather creative stretch in reality. I understand they function differently than Dogecoin in their handling, still "largest blockchain platforms out there"; just to note.

ETH 6439 July 2015

BCH 786 BTCU 698 August 2017 / January 2016

BSV 485 November 2018

I got fairly far down the list on CMC and to continue seemed overly harsh as the trend continued.

Constant updates and support further improve the Stellar blockchain platform.

Factual they also do micro releases (small tweak releases) and they do master branch implementation and developmental work. A bit different than many things in the space.

Shibe loves Stellar.

It is a bit mutual. Dogecoin is such an interesting blockchain and serious project, that peek the advisors we have ties, old ones. Even as Stellar grew over the years more than a few of their services did drops to Dogecoin just due to the history between the assets. OneCred rip now This was one of the early services for Stellar.

PoW vs Green Tech

DogeCoin: Much Hash, Such Work

Even though DogeCoin has many orders of magnitude fewer transactions and smaller transactional value, it now exceeds over 20TH/s in terms of hashrate.

You are not wrong, in fact the other day we were one of the tops for hashrate in the entire space. It has been a long while since we were near 20TH/s though hashrate 9/22/2017 was the last time we were under 20TH/s. Just as a note, more transactions does not mean more energy spent as the energy spent is per block which contains multiple transactions.

The amount of electricity wasted to power stagnant technology negatively impacts the environment

You seem to have missed that Dogecoin is AuxPoW, this means that Dogecoin mining is a byproduct of Litecoin mining. Which is why our hashrates are generally close. This also takes the energy "waste" down to running a node, which most networks in the space have. Deciding it is wasteful simply for your narrative in Dogecoin's case; seems short sighted and a bit targeted.

and reduces mining rewards.

Given there is a very low energy cost via AuxPoW, there is not a reduction in mining rewards. Further given Dogecoin entered the "legacy" mining period we are beyond halvening, we are forever to the 10k block rewards which facilitate ongoing transactional functionality. Transaction fees, along with block rewards go to the miners; there is no reduction to the mining rewards for the miners.

Despite all this waste

Given the network is rather efficient, I do not understand the implication of waste.

DogeCoin is still theoretically much less secure than Stellar.

Based around what theoretical reference? Dogecoin is five and a half years old, in actual reality of functional existence ..Dogecoin has not had an attack that in any manner made the blockchain less secure. Further more blockchain audits, independent security reviews, network health reviews tend to be part of the listing process for the higher level compliant functioning exchanges. To date we have yet to fail one, shutter or even has a questionable passing.

You state Dogecoin is insecure in theory.. Did you miss that Dogecoin follows Bitcoin's upstream? The codebase is public, if you wish to state we are insecure I will ask you for the proof of your claims, it is a rather grave implication to make without cause. I assume you have found something everyone else has missed, care to share?

Doge Token: Such Green, Much token

Transparency and Safety

DogeCoin: Much scam, Such Sad

Remember the days of tipbots. Yes? Well we’re sure things didn’t end very well for the most avid tippers.

Pardon? I ask this honestly as we have had multiple tipbots ongoing for multiple platforms; with no issues in assorted communities that have had no issues. Surely you are aware that the tipbots, are external, third party offerings; they are unattached and uninvolved in the actual Dogecoin project. I state this because you seem to be of the mind that because something happened externally, on third party offerings, by third party developers; that it somehow reflects on Dogecoin itself.

Applications built on DogeCoin are often closed source and non-contract enforced.

Discord - Frog's

Discord - BA

Discord - BitsBot

Discord - MSFT

Twitter - Beir's

Twitter - TipDoge

Reddit - Dogetipbot - Mohland - Redacted code

Reddit - Dogetipbot - Mohland - Redacted code

Reddit - AltcoinTip -Vindimy

Reddit - SoDogeTip

IRC - Doger - One of the longest running tipbots in the space.

IRC - Doger Soak

IRC- NRP

Slack - Val

Telegram - Peakshift

These are just the ones off the top of my head.

We only mourn for the nice shibes who were victimized by these viles scammers.

Broad statements are made here in relation to all the tipbots. The one that did have issues, you seem to have missed was not actually tied to the project. Further more it was not just a tipbot that was impacted but an entire company. DogeTipBot.

Doge Token: Such Clear, Much Trust

Doge Token cannot be attacked with 51% attack and this makes us invulnerable.

You are correct, it does not take a 51% attack to take Doge Token down. It takes sadly removing two nodes from the Stellar network down to take everything, in the fullest down. Due to their more centralized nature of issuance, and operation the base network under Doge Token is publicly known to have several issues. Recently Stellar had a review by an external third party. Stellar security which goes on to detail several known issues in relation to the base functionality methods of Stellar. Understanding that on the base, anyone can claim anything noting that David himself came out to reply seems important. Further adding to this is just what KAIST is along with why it is important to note that it was not just random people making these claims.

Stellar exploit allowed 2.2bn Lumens to be created 2017. This was an onchain direct exploit.

Ongoing issues with Stellar, one which related to SDEX where Doge Token exists bug reporting.

Stellar Dex had an issue disclosed, which rather went interestingly.

Now the very important distinction here, what I have listed above are on chain issues, they are flaws exploits, problems related to the base code of functionality of Stellar itself; not third party issues. They are also public knowledge to be issues do please do not assume I am taking a swing at their project.

In the interest of disclosure there have been third party troubles relating to Stellar as well.

There was the BlackWallet hack Jan 2018 hack that resulted in 400kUSD stolen.

This makes Doge Token more trust-worthy than DogeCoin.

I will note that your entire white paper is based around false claims, baseless speculation, very easily disproved comments about the Dogecoin project, and further more implied relations which are not the actual basis of anything. We have tried in vain repeatedly to contact your project, and you have resisted.

I understand the space is huge, in fact we find it wonderful that it is so diverse. What we pause at, and what will always pause at are projects that make baseless claims, attacks, spread misinformation and bluntly put, lie. Whatever your intentions are this is not the best way to step into the space, especially given we have already had to answer for your projects comments, and we are also very curious why you took a logo without credit to the artist.

In terms of trust? Dogecoin has been here for over half a decade, our engagements are public, our codebase is public, our communications. Our communities are user driven, our third party platforms are also user driven. Where do you find fault in the trust-worthiness given who we are is rather public, we engage in the space openly as people, we are honest, direct and very proactive in relation to the entire userbase.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for you. With this it is our hope that you do correct your statements, that you do make things clearer, further more crediting the artist of your logo would also be kindly. Your methods are deceptive, your entire whitepaper is made up of libelous commentary. I do hope we can find a middle ground that does not take this much further given your stance thus far as been to mislead users by making grossly incorrect comments to further your own personal gains.



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