Tuesday, September 3, 2019

Youtube alternatives guide/review (Uploading videos and some Live Streaming)

TL;DR: Vimeo, Facebook, and maybe peertube are your only options. I don't know much of PeerTube though. If you want money, I don't talk about that here and there are very few choices

This was originally a comment I made on youtube. The comment suggested to go to Bitchute if your account gets deleted or something (not because youtube sucks)

All the alternatives are lacking either a good homepage that does show you stuff that you would like to watch, or are missing a good way to promote videos and finding them (a keyword/tag system). Only a few don't and you probably already know them. Everyone knows them. I did focus mainly on uploading videos too, sites like picarto and other streaming sites are not mentioned. I can't talk a lot about livestreaming because I didn't try a lot or looked for a lot and I am not too much into it

I also did try all of these for a good while

Sites on the list, in order. With a small summary

  1. Bitchute (It's behind but can get there. I am hopeful for it)
  2. DTube (sucks big dick)
  3. Facebook (Works I guess? Data is confusing?)
  4. Vimeo (Professional, perfect for filmmaking. Please read)
  5. Dailymotion (Trying to make a HD Remake I guess so huge work in progress. Their articles aren't even updated)
  6. Flixxo (WIP, but works nicely. Innovative. Minor bugs)
  7. DLive (Liars, but nothing wrong with it. Works perfectly. Only Livestreaming)
  8. Tumblr (blog but with helpful tags if they are common. No one there really looks for videos specifically though)
  9. Twitter (Only small vids)
  10. Instagram (Incredibly effective tags. Only small vids)
  11. Blogger, Wordpress, etc (Start from 0 :D it is lovely imo)
  12. Openload (Best free host, limits, please read)
  13. Peertube (The torrented youtube?? I don't know shit of it, people think it's awesome, try it. Read for more)
  14. Mixer vs Twitch vs DLive (Same genre, different features, choose depending on who you like or trust more.... as a person... not right answer.)
    Basically livestreaming.
  15. Reddit (Promote your stuff. Great.)

Then I talk about

  • Which ones I recommend mainly. That don't have a single issue. you know them already
  • Tip on being insecure of what you do. Or being a perfectionist
  • What I use and why (Youtube, Facebook, and formerly Flixxo. This is my loadout basically. Yes I still prefer Youtube and I like it)

Let's start

  • Bitchute isn't good tbh. They are still way behind. lacks a system to show videos to people, and a working tag and keyword system. It's not a good one right now but I think it's the most decent one that is similar to youtube and I have high hopes for it if it keeps trying to get better and stuff. It is a great alternative if your channel gets deleted and you want your fans to keep seeing your stuff but well you won't get revenue and you won't get more fans either (through the site). A blog would be another choice but bitchute would be easier to use and would require less work. You really shouldn't expect to grow there since all the youtubers I know who had moved there are almost not getting anything there (They are also really good and well known, not mainstream though)
  • DTube just sucks big dick along with steemit. You have to wait for your account to be approved and (for good reason) they give you multiple long passwords that are random letters (They are crypto, so it makes sense). They are asking you for money to post stuff or just edit the description of your videos. A lot of issues uploading videos. The homepage sucks and doesn't have a feature to show things you may like (it's also heavily influenced and probably manipulated by what they want). Their search engine is all broken now. I believe your older videos can also get deleted. Some people say that you can still just use it to host videos but, I THINK one person on youtube told me that also wouldn't work if the video for example gets deleted from dtube (even with the hash link thing or whatever), I am not even sure if this is true or if someone told me this, I can't verify it, so really not even see it as anything close to the truth. He could had even said something similar but not that. Also, I really don't care if you need to fund the project or whatever, they actually never tell you of this until you need to pay, and other alternatives are less scummyAlso, since I dislike them I encourage you to see this video on cryptocurrency. This girl (Michelle Pan) knows a lot about it and she talks about how bitcoin is the only one that will work. Just don't support DTube, I don't care if they are small and growing and working on stuff, I talk about bitchute and many others and they weren't full of shit to the point where I have to dedicate a whole other long reddit post on it. The comments show how they can be even worse too
  • Facebook is not recognized as one. But it's actually really good. Problem is that all your followers have to use their real name and stuff and that you can't really tell if people do actually enjoy the video and watched the whole thing or if they just saw it and left (since facebook autoplays to the next vid instantly when you finish yours. Stats are inaccurate) I am doing very decent on Facebook and probably just as much or better than youtube, but I still don't like facebook in general personally and it's just a "eh" for me. A good number of people react to my videos but I doubt all of them saw it. It just feels off and my theory is what I said about autoplaying or maybe it's just the whole environment, there could be normies and boomers you know? It just feels off and there should be a reason for it because my stats don't make sense into making me think that all of them are seeing the full video or at least some of the video
  • Vimeo is too professional and it's probably not a platform for memes. Perfect for films, they want you. It's not one for gaming. There are some limitations for not paying but it may work, I am not sure.
  • Dailymotion is all broke and looks like a work in progress now (they are working on updates and stuff. may be usable in the future but not now. They are basically remaking themselves). Dailymotion was where I started actually as a kid, "carevilgameplays". Back then it was really decent a great, can't say anything about views or comments, I didn't even think of that back then. But I would guess that was actually better than bitchute back then or just as good
  • Flixxo is also a work in progress (not a secret). It's basically an alpha or beta and they recently removed the desktop app and released the mobile app. Gotta wait for them to finish (from my experience as someone who tried the thing fully. It is great, it has everything, and it's innovative. Not the same as youtube, it's similar. Right now they just need more content. I hear a lot of filmmakers had already done stuff there and see people liking it on their telegram). The idea is basically you watch ads to get in-app currency, and with that currency you can pay to watch videos. The creators directly receive the currency and then they can use it to watch videos (I am not sure if they plan to make a way to convert this currency into money. Remember it is very early in development, but it does work very nice and has a very nice user interface)I did have a few issues with Flixxo, but they are easily solved by moving where the video is saved and the name, and/or restarting the app. These issues happened rarely and they could had been fixed already as of now (I suggest small filenames though, maybe it prevents it, not sure if it helps)
  • DLive is not bad but they lied to you about being free and also getting the money directly to you thanks to lemons (In reality, those lemons are the equivalent of bits on twitch. So you still need to use streamlabs or something to get donations which is the exact same thing as streaming on twitch or mixer). It still isn't bad, no issues. Just know that you can still get banned if they feel like it just like with any other site, they are not as special as they promised, and there are already people who had been banned from there without breaking the rules(Well I can only think of one person, and sure with time they can prove themselves that he is going to be the only one, if he is the only one).I can still trust them, would you though? I don't think this is a big deal. They haven't stole money, they just stole an audience with fake advertisingAlso, I swear to god if they are the same devs as dtube..... they would just be the biggest scummiest pigs on the entire planet. Probably not because they are from China. Some people are not comfortable with chinese apps and stuff but I think we shouldn't worry about that and that they are fine.
  • Tumblr is more of a blog. They don't specifically promote videos but you can always just try to go to the good and old days and start from 0. Make a blog, get no help promoting it, and get it out properly yourself (without spamming). In my experience I noticed that tags are extremely helpful, usually the common ones. There's extra unrelated stuff on the spoiler. Just why I love tags and anecdotes, but I don't upload videos tumblr. I also talk about Reddit (and I love that, I rarely want people to see what I post, but when I want to thanks to that, they do, more people than I expect to actually. Thanks to them I posted a few stuff in here that I thought was just going to be not that great, like tf2 spy teaching a kid some stuff (directly from the comic), and up next just nagatoro friends walking together all wholesome. May do Zelda Wind Waker but I don't plan to. Since Reddit is not a social media I often think "nah I can't post this, not original and it's just a comment", not sure if that's a good way to look at it, it probably is. Tumblr is the only thing that encourages me to post things on reddit that are less original and are more like a comment or something that people will actually like. Something that can tell me the post won't be deleted here or just be completely forgotten and non-existent. It's the best judge. I don't really care about karma, just get my post to a score of 3 and I will be happy because at least the post was there and it existed...... unless the post was something I worked really hard on. I feel like posts with 1 or 0 score are completely forgotten, non-existent, probably deleted, and just not approved. a score 2 well it existed but I am on a pretty thin line there bud, anything less and people might not see the post again even if they try to look for it. With one it could exist at least but no one saw it/no one is going to see it so what's the point? Going back to tumblr. It's lovely how you don't have to be the greatest for people to totally love your stuff, they love it more than what I would expect or ask)
  • Twitter is great. But they only allow small videos and I don't know how well Twitter hashtags work (since I never tried them and they never worked for me. My videos are not that great either, it works for some people).
  • Instagram is great. It only allows small videos but I am 100% sure it will work for you and I hate instagram Why I hate insta, unrelated ->(They banned me for no reason and I only used it to talk to friends and stuff. But well, I am only one case, not everyone is complaining about it, so just ignore that and be confident that you won't get banned). I am sure Instagram will work for you because my friends use it and it works for them amazingly, heck they could do something that is not that great and they'll get views or a following larger than I or them would be comfortable with (I honestly wouldn't be comfortable with a large following on a account I use for personal stuff). I just see my friend getting bombarded with compliments for her boku no hero art, the friend of a friend of mine does video memes and that dude already looks like a celebrity, and my friend draws stuff (no fandom) and met some artists there and a good amount of people (not a lot) are finding her art. Highly suggest it for small videos and please send nudes. I never used it for videos (because don't like the style, design and stuff, not bad, just don't fit with my videos). But I see people are doing really good with it. You will not grow instantly at least not always unless you are lucky (and the chances of luck are bigger than youtube I think). If your stuff is mediocre like mine people MAY see it
  • Blogger, Wordpress, etc: Same as Tumblr. But since you don't have tags it could be harder to promote. But I love blogs, I wish there were easier to find and stuff. But blogs are usually lovely and peculiar. I just love it and I might do one myself, they are the closest to the good and old internet if you like nostalgia (I was not there then)
  • Openload is a place where you can host your videos and start from 0. Just a tool for your site or blog if it doesn't have a feature to upload a video to their servers (instead, upload it to openload). It's free, no compression, only con is that if no one sees or access the video in 30 days. If no one clicks the link the video will be deleted. Instead of openload you can always pay for more storage on google drive or other sites. I believe the company who owns openload is into piracy and that's why Reddit banned them and google search doesn't show the site, just add a dot and co at the end (I don't think Reddit finds anything wrong with the site, they just want to prevent the spam or whatever people did with the site on reddit I guess. I don't know where else could they be banned)
  • Peertube is something I highly suggest to try but I don't know shit about it and it might be too complex for me. A few told me it isn't but I am no longer looking for or trying alternatives (that was a long time ago) so I am just too lazy of a cunt to try it. You should look it up yourself but if you insist well. Peertube is another innovative idea that is not youtube and could be great. I think you could call it the youtube of torrenting. From what I remember it works with networks and stuff (not in the sense of companies, I think, but in the literal sense of a network. In simpler terms that translates to well, communities, I think). The videos are hosted on your computer and will always exist as long as everyone has a copy since it also basically works like torrenting. When I call it the youtube of torrenting I don't think you can easily just pirate anime or I don't know, I don't think it's a replacement to whatever you use for piracy, but I think it works similar to torrenting. Since I am using the word I think in every sentence you should know I am the worst source for this and I may quote somebody here if they have a better way to say it (if they can keep it in simpler terms that everyone can understand. I feel like at the time I skipped trying PeerTube because someone made it sound complicated. Just don't be a nerd, no offense I am too, but just don't be one and introduce people into what basically PeerTube is without explaining everything or getting too technical)
  • Mixer and Twitch are basically like two different games of the same genre. One is battlefield and the other one is call of duty. Both have their features and stuff. And both are owned by different companies. I personally like to say to choose what you morally prefer, which one of the two companies (Microsoft or Amazon/Twitch) you like the most? Not in what they do, but in how they are as I guess people and how they moderate. Which one do you think you will have a better relationship with? You know Mixer has the same rules as Twitch, DLive, and Youtube, and anything. And they all can bend the rules or choose what they like and what they don't. They all can abuse their own rules. I don't know how to say it better but I hope you understand what I mean with this. It basically comes to choosing what you think is not a cunt, or which one is less of a cunt, or in some cases, which ones you think are more less likely to have a problem with what you do.I personally choose Twitch because it's the default and I couldn't careless about streaming. I doubt twitch will have a problem with me and I don't use a camera (never will, not comfortable looking at myself in realtime for hours while I am playing a game, worse when editing). If you are more motivated or care more about streaming than me, then just research both of them, look at clips and shit. Twitch is also more accessible since it's the default. I don't really plan to switch unless something happensI won't talk about the drama on any of them because besides the fact that I am just not interested in drama, it would not be fair. All of them could worsen in the future too
  • Reddit is just there to promote videos and it's not even going to be really helpful unless your video is good enough. It doesn't have to be the best video, it just has to be decent or great you know, or could be related to a recent trend. I mean if you are just vlogging, doing a gameplay (Even edited or heavily edited), a compilation, or anything of the sorts, it will not help you or at least not much. I can guarantee you that you can at least get one sub or a few if you do that everyday on a sub dedicated to that (specially since that's how I met a couple of channels). But your luck is similar to promoting it on a facebook group or another social media (the difference is that, subxsub is forbidden because reddit is big smart).Reddit will work best if your video is specific to a community or fandom and it's not a gameplay or something like that. Then it could be really helpful, but it will always depend on the sub. ddlc will take it really nicely, they love everything lol, tf2 has a few rules, but people can still love it since it's rare, in other subs people will fanboy because you dedicated a video to the game they enjoy and it's very rare. They will take it as a present. It really depends. Again don't expect gameplays or vlogs or whatever to work though, not saying it's bad, I mean I do gameplays, it's just that it won't work on Reddit and a lot of people already do gameplays and vlogs and stuff, they require one or two days of work unlike other stuff that takes months or a week. Even if you are indeimaus, people will only see the cover that basically means "oh a gameplay" and then it just comes to "Should I see this one?". You can still do game related stuff, you can still record the game, just can't be a gameplay or it won't get a lot of tractionVRChat and other peculiar games or games that are not the usual thing will work, since they are considered to be on another category.

The only good and finished alternative I can think of is either facebook or vimeo. But they depend on what you do and what you want. Peertube is also another one but again I haven't even tried it. That is my complete guide on my alternatives for youtube lol.

Here's a tip. If you are insecure about your stuff not being good enough, I am not the best advisor, I am just going to ask you to stop that or else you are just not going to do anything. Either upload it and you will get better with time and practice or just give up (if you are a game developer though, unrelated but I hear one guy is a perfectionist and didn't want to release a single game. You should practice and stuff but try to be more confident and upload a game from once in a while anyways. Even if it's mediocre. I don't know if this can apply to filmmakers in any way but it could. I mean, you gotta do something, it doesn't have to be every week, or month, or day. Just something. Could be once a year or every few years, whatever. Just do something fam, you will not achieve anything by doing nothing. It's like trying to get a bunch of optional training for a degree in college but never getting time to put your degree in practice or a job)

As for youtube, I am confident youtube can finally get to the right direction nowadays, but I am not sure that could happen anytime soon. But because of recent changes and what they do I can say that they are at least trying (just a little bit I think, which is not enough, and they may still not realize how important it is to just fix these. Probably only a small part of youtube is trying to improve the issues, but at least it's bigger than before and they could grow and get better with time). I like to stick to youtube mainly because it's more convenient and I like to be optimistic. Youtube is not that bad and the alternatives aren't still there (you don't have to be as good as youtube, you just have to have these essential things to be a good video sharing site)

I also still use facebook. See where it takes me. I will never like facebook for the same reasons many people don't (privacy and just how they work. They are creepy as fuck. Anecdote, I don't want to creep you out. Focus on choosing what site you want to useThey found my alt too when it was only used on another country, on a resort, on another computer, and with no personal info on it. New email. A name that looked real. And I logged out without saving the password to chrome. They are the creepiest people out there in my opinion. They always find my alts (usually made on the same computer sometimes different email or a vpn) and there's no way they found that one)

I also used Flixxo before but since they set the desktop app into their legacy page. I think everyone should still try it but I just want to wait until they go to their next phase, until everything is set up and nice.



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