Friday, October 19, 2018

Discord Log from Ravencoin Open Developer Meeting - Oct 19, 2018

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:03 PM

Hello Everybody, sorry we're getting started a couple of minutes late today.Today we wanted to make sure that everybody was aware of the Bug Bounty program and discuss it.Has everybody seen the information at https://github.com/RavenProject/Ravencoin/wiki?GitHubRavenProject/RavencoinProject staging tree. Contribute to RavenProject/Ravencoin development by creating an account on GitHub.📷

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:06 PM

Yes. I'm working on it...📷1

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:07 PM

I have seen that @Hans_Schmidt Thank you for really digging into the code. You have found some really good ones.Did you get an address posted in the issues so we can reward you for your efforts?

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:08 PM

Yes I sent it to Tron and blondfrogs. Thanks.

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:08 PM

I got hans address, and updated the wiki accordingly

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:09 PM

Nice! thanks guys, we'll get that sent out today.

brianmct - Today at 2:09 PM

Wow that's a lot of RVN!

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:09 PM

The next one is proving harder to find. That is a good thing 📷

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:09 PM

Please @Scotty and @Hans_Schmidt look at the wiki, and make sure the address next to the issues you created is the correct address where you would like payment.(edited)

MSFTserver-mine more @ MinerMore - Today at 2:09 PM

just a heads up im renaming this channel to just development meetings

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:09 PM

We feel it's worth the amount for sure to find and fix those type of issues.

brianmct - Today at 2:10 PM

Probably shouldn't keep the addresses on the wiki, since it's publicly editable?

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:10 PM

@MSFTserver-mine more @ MinerMore okay

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:11 PM

We will look into the github wiki permissionsand verify addresses before sending payment

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:11 PM

Thats a good point, and reach out to the individuals directly to ensure it's their correct address.

brianmct - Today at 2:12 PM

Actually it's not publicly editable. My bad. Still good to confirm directly though

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:12 PM

Yes

brianmct - Today at 2:12 PM

Probably have people put their address on the issue when reporting it

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:12 PM

^^

brianmct - Today at 2:12 PM

Don't want any MITM attacks :P

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:13 PM

No we don't.

Chatturga - Today at 2:13 PM

Putting a public address out there is asking to get sent certain asset tokens when it goes live. 📷📷1

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:13 PM

Any questions about the issues that were found thus far?

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:14 PM

I verified that my address is correct.

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:14 PM

Thanks

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:15 PM

Will you send a dust send first to verify (for bitcoin we do that as standard procedure for large amounts)

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:15 PM

Yes, that is the process we follow also

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:15 PM

sounds good

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:16 PM

Just an FYI some of the developers were at the Free State Blockchain conference last week.We also spoke at the MIT Business schoolIt was great to see our community members there!

UserJonPizza™FlyToTheNorthRaven - Today at 2:17 PM

Are you guys 100% on the 31st? Ik prob been asked a million times but...

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:18 PM

Thanks to all that helped with the conference.📷1

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:18 PM

The current code base will start voting on the 31st.

Chatturga - Today at 2:18 PM

Yes Its in the code.

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:18 PM

Any other questions about the Bug Bounty?

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:19 PM

What's the plan for next formal release?

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:20 PM

Should be early next week, we are planning a 2.1.1 release, with the latest bug fixes in it.We thought we would give it a couple more days to see if any additional bugs are found.

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:21 PM

Agreed, there will be one more binary release before the end of the month.

[Master] Roshii - Today at 2:21 PM

Sorry late again

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:21 PM

I'm not pushing for the release, just asking. I prefer to have a few days to see if I can get my next attack attempt to work

SpyderDev - Today at 2:22 PM

@[Master] Roshii - were your ears burning?

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:22 PM

Yep. You got it, keep attacking the chain!

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:23 PM

Yes please we would encourage everybody to help us find additional chain splitting or consensus defects.Other defects are also welcome, just not part of the bounty at this point.

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:24 PM

It would be helpful to know if someone is methodically verifying that the fixes work and also cover the minor variations, because I am not doing that.

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:25 PM

Yes. I am personally verifying all bug fixes, and so are the other developers

SpyderDev - Today at 2:25 PM

We are also creatimg tests for them.

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:25 PM

Like I payed unique asset creation into the wrong burn address. But there are other variations. Your fix looks like it covers it all.

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:26 PM

That is correct. We appreciate the bugs found and expand off of them to fix all other small variations of them.

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:26 PM

Great. I focus on new angles.

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:26 PM

Prefect!

SpyderDev - Today at 2:26 PM

Please

Chatturga - Today at 2:27 PM

test 

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:27 PM

@Tron isn't able to be here but he wanted me to share this.

Hi All. I’m sorry I’m not able to make it to this development discussion. I’ve been invited to be on a Cryptocurrency and ICO/STO panel at the Federal Bar Council Fall Retreat. I've been informed that many of the attendees are judges from the Second Circuit Court of Appeals which is the Circuit Court for the state of NY. These presidentially appointed judges are just below the US Supreme Court and before whom the SEC and CFTC would be mere litigants. I’m on the panel with some heavyweight crypto and securities attorneys and my role will be talking primarily about the technology (blockchain, tokenized assets, smart contracts, etc.) while allowing the other distinguished panelists to address the legal aspects of this new technology. This is an amazing opportunity to introduce the audience to the best aspects of crypto-currencies and crypto-assets. 

📷4

Pathfinder - Today at 2:28 PM

wow that's awesome

SpyderDev - Today at 2:28 PM

We are all hoping @Tron will not get arrested.

mapple - Today at 2:28 PM

yesand yes to the not arrested :))

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:29 PM

I told him the mask thing was probably a bad idea for that event...

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:29 PM

The Raven mask or the Guy Falkes?

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:29 PM

We need a Tron with judges Meme @PathfinderYes to both.

Skan - Today at 2:29 PM

ITS A TRAP

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:30 PM

LOL

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:30 PM

A Tron Trap?

mapple - Today at 2:30 PM

i was asked on telegram a few days ago about timeframes for all phases (currently announced) to be completed - are there estimates I've missed?I've properly looked through githubi've not lol

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:31 PM

We are hoping to complete the remaining phases by the end of Q1 but have provided no hard dates.

mapple - Today at 2:32 PM

OK - so march 2019 estimate if anyone asks again would be fair at the moment

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:33 PM

One of the topics I would like to cover for all our web developers is the ravencoin.com website.

gwrg - Today at 2:33 PM

Does it include Phase 7 which was added recently?

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:34 PM

That's not been fully thought through to this point so it's not likely.I wanted to make sure you all knew that Ravencoin.com is a community website, the source is posted and web developers are free to submit pull requests to make changes.

Vincent - Today at 2:35 PM

Chatturga had mentioned a plan to somehow modify the asset creation cost in the future...is that part of the qtr 1 plan?

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:36 PM

We'll be watching closely how the asset creation and RVN burn goes once it goes live.

Chatturga - Today at 2:37 PM

I did say that the rate is 500 RVN for now so that actual data can be gathered, which can then be applied to proposed changes. Speculative data just isnt enough.(edited)

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:37 PM

Anywho... The source for the Website is at https://github.com/RavenProject/ravenproject.github.ioGitHubRavenProject/ravenproject.github.ioRaven Project Website. Contribute to RavenProject/ravenproject.github.io development by creating an account on GitHub.📷

Pathfinder - Today at 2:37 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/2kieyw.jpg📷

SpyderDev - Today at 2:38 PM

LOL

Pathfinder - Today at 2:38 PM

Tron's in there. Just have to look hard (like finding Waldo)

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:38 PM

@Pathfinder You are the best, I'm just saying....

Vincent - Today at 2:38 PM

i understand but pure economics will go into play. i will not harp on it here...there is plenty of time for this

Skan - Today at 2:38 PM

Ok good to know @ website, will spread that info

Vincent - Today at 2:38 PM

obvious my soapbox

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:39 PM

Thanks Skan!📷1Any questions about Ravencoin.com?

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:40 PM

I come to these meetings for @Pathfinder memes(edited)

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:40 PM

SO DO I!If I say no will you delete your post?(edited)📷Actually, if we don't have any further questions about the website that would be a great topic.

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:43 PM

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RavencoinDev - Today at 2:43 PM

@[Master] Roshii has been hard at work adding asset support to the mobile wallets.📷3You'll be able to see, transfer, receive assets.You'll also be able to create them right on your phone.

mapple - Today at 2:44 PM

awesome for small business use cases

Vincent - Today at 2:45 PM

will that only include RVN created assets or other currencies as well?

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:46 PM

The RVN wallets only support RVN and soon will support RVN assets.📷2Agreed!Any other questions about Mobile support?

russ - Today at 2:48 PM

any web wallets that support assets yet?

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:48 PM

That's a good question!

Chatturga - Today at 2:49 PM

@traysi -[MM Sysop]- Might be able to answer that.

Pathfinder - Today at 2:49 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/2kifzg.jpg📷

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:49 PM

That's amazing.I think Pathfinder could get paid to make memes for a company...@Under Has done some great work migrating web based bitcoin tools to Raven.I would love to see a web dev kit that allowed web/mobile developers to easily incorporate Raven into their projects.

SpyderDev - Today at 2:51 PM

When is the meme bounty program?

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:51 PM

Just wondering- is anyone tracking use of post-2.04 client use on the mainnet? It would be good to know if the non-asset stuff is continuing to work without issues on main.

[Master] Roshii - Today at 2:52 PM

@RavencoinDev I have some ideas for mobile integration kit

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:52 PM

Everything seems to be in order on Mainnet.

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:52 PM

Awesome @[Master] RoshiiLet's open it up for General Q&A for the last 10 minutes. Anybody have a question they have been dying to ask?

Under - Today at 2:53 PM

I’d really like to know about the build system.The solution I use is pretty reliable.

cade - Today at 2:53 PM

What would you like to know about it?

Under - Today at 2:54 PM

I’d be glad to train you up on mine

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:54 PM

We are working to incorporate the work that you have put in there. Still struggling with the Mac build part of it.

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 2:54 PM

Do you track wallet version usage on main. Any idea how many people are using newer versions?

cade - Today at 2:54 PM

The current build system we're using is based on what you've doneJust modified to fit into our CI process

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 2:55 PM

@Hans_Schmidt We don't have a rolling tally but you can use the explores to view node versions.

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:55 PM

We do check what's being run on the network periodically but don't have a dashboard type view into the version data.

Vincent - Today at 2:55 PM

is the burn rate going to be tracked and charted on the asset explorer?

Under - Today at 2:55 PM

Rather than incorporating it, it vanilla in a vanilla Ubuntu 18 box works pretty well. CI like Travis could run on a fully gitian build, which I’m glad to work on too

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:56 PM

@Vincent There was talk of creating an RPC call that would show how much has been burned and for what purpose.Anybody want to take a shot at writing that?

Under - Today at 2:56 PM

I’m in the process !Lol

Vincent - Today at 2:56 PM

be a great stat to watch

russ - Today at 2:56 PM

http://ravencoin.asset-explorer.net/stats @Vincentburn and creation rate

Vincent - Today at 2:56 PM

nice

RavencoinDev - Today at 2:57 PM

Sweet, thanks @russ

russ - Today at 2:57 PM

@Scotty made it📷1top notch

cade - Today at 2:58 PM

@Under We have processes and tools that are in use within our organization and we leverage those tools for all of our projects. We have taken the awesome work you've done and tailored it to fit within our toolsets.📷2

Under - Today at 2:59 PM

I can understand that, but I’d counter that the process I describe is simply a copy of bitcoins and allows for it to be replicated in a larger community of developer outside of the Medici teamIt makes the build process trustless and decentralized if it can be replicated by anyone.But I get why you have your ways of doing it.

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 3:00 PM

If you drop the burn address into the web explorer, it tells you how much went there.

Vincent - Today at 3:00 PM

charts are nicer📷2📷1

RavencoinDev - Today at 3:01 PM

I would like a burned endpoint that coinmarketcap can easily call to use in their circulating supply metric.

Vincent - Today at 3:01 PM

burn and rewards can only go one way.... 📷

RavencoinDev - Today at 3:02 PM

Alright, thank you all for being here today. Thank you for your support and for all your effort on Ravencoin platform!

Neo-Geo - Today at 3:02 PM

While we are aware of the dev team’s commitment to ASIC resistance, are there any assurances that RVN dev will find a solution to stay GPU exclusive for optimal decentralization? Monero’s commitment to fork every 6 months (currently on CryptoNightV8) has been wildly successful in keeping AMD’s cards pointing predominantly at their network. RVN is quickly replacing Ethereum as the defacto coin to mine for Nvidia owners (the world’s most popular video card), but the rise of FPGAs can ruin the incentive for GPU miners and lead to hash centralization.📷2

Vincent - Today at 3:02 PM

as a noob...glad to be part of this...great job by all

cade - Today at 3:03 PM

@Under We will be releasing our build process to the community

RavencoinDev - Today at 3:03 PM

Yes @Neo-Geo we are committed to ASIC resistance and we are watching Monero closely.Thanks again everybody. Now go find some BUGS!

Under - Today at 3:04 PM

Cool thanks guys

[Dev] Blondfrogs - Today at 3:04 PM

BTW. QT wallet GUI update is coming. hahahah. have a good day everyone📷1

russ - Today at 3:05 PM

📷

mxL86 (MinerMore.com) - Today at 3:05 PM

Noicee

Hans_Schmidt - Today at 3:05 PM

CU later

Pathfinder - Today at 3:05 PM

thank you everyone!


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